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    Help Identify Nirvana indoor mix.

    Well not quite... Frank correct me if I'm wrong... Nirvana DOES have a good rep; not stellar seeds but solid, they're just cheap, and the F2s almost by definition have increased phenotypic variability, which can actually be a POSITIVE thing if you buy a pack of seeds, grow them all out, and keep the best for a mother, because while with all the differences you could hav a couple crappy ones, a few average ones, and an exceptional female worthy of cloning the living fuck out of.
    Even though they are F2s they ARE the same strain, but not exactly as the original breeder had intended necessarily, unless that strain is stable to begin with. Here's the funky part, if the strain was originally an F1 hybrid (common), for the F2s to be more similar, the ORIGINAL parents had to be fairly similar! Anyway yeah, go read up on your Punnett squares and Mendel's peas, lol.

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    #12
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    Help Identify Nirvana indoor mix.

    Quote Originally Posted by stinkyattic
    Well not quite... Frank correct me if I'm wrong... Nirvana DOES have a good rep; not stellar seeds but solid, they're just cheap, and the F2s almost by definition have increased phenotypic variability, which can actually be a POSITIVE thing if you buy a pack of seeds, grow them all out, and keep the best for a mother, because while with all the differences you could hav a couple crappy ones, a few average ones, and an exceptional female worthy of cloning the living fuck out of.
    Even though they are F2s they ARE the same strain, but not exactly as the original breeder had intended necessarily, unless that strain is stable to begin with. Here's the funky part, if the strain was originally an F1 hybrid (common), for the F2s to be more similar, the ORIGINAL parents had to be fairly similar! Anyway yeah, go read up on your Punnett squares and Mendel's peas, lol.


    yup, Stinky has the good info, she knows what she's talking about - there are a few decent-priced breeders out there, Nirvana, Joey Weed, Motarebel, etc, and the most common questions are "why are they cheaper?" - well, it's basically a situation of a breeder taking several generations over a few years' time to achieve the desired seeds, OR, someone taking quality seeds, and just growing their own seeds from them - you may wind up with offspring quite different than the parents - as Stinky said, that does give you a chance at some interesting phenos to play with - AND, there is a peculiar tendency with differing strains, it's called "hybrid vigor" - that's what happens when two 'different' strains are crossed, and the offspring will often be BETTER than the original parents - pretty cool, actually - the biggest nuisance about un-stabilized strains is having some short, some tall, some bushy, some spindly, etc ... not that a big deal, but it can be a pain in the butt, if you're growing indoors, where uniformity generally makes things easier :jointsmile:

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    #13
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    Help Identify Nirvana indoor mix.

    yeah if your intentions were to know exactly what you are growing, mixed bags were definately not the way to go. I have never ordered seeds and know very little about strains and there breeders quality but you definately grow what you by.

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