Low odor strain help!

[madeline]

All a fan does is blow around the air, no matter what temp it is. If the air is hot the fan will blow around hot air. Everyone uses remote ballasts in enclosed areas just for that reason! Most of the heat involved comes from the ballast so it only makes sense you'll want to put it outside of the closet. Or go with a large bank of flouro's. You'll still have some heat to deal with but nothing like a 250w in a closet with no ventilation beyond a fan. The flouro growers I've seen use 4-500w in each section and end up with very similar flowers as done with smaller hid's but don't have near the heat issues, but still they are there and must be vented! She cut a nice and neat hole high up in the wall near the ceiling but where a finished duct grill can be easily installed to cover the hole. She then installed Dayton a 130 fan and exhausts most of the heat into the wall and attic.

[bongerstonerd00d]

Orange..........you need airflow d00d..........

I'll say this about all that. You got shitty ventilation, you get shitty results. Good ventilation is one of the most overlooked items, and probably one of the most important. PLants NEED fresh air, its a must. Same as us humans do.

If I were setting up a new grow area tomorrow I'd be buying fans, ducting, carbon scrubber, muffler, etc all before I even considered what to grow. And, I would have it installed and tweaked to operate as efficently as possible while providing fresh air, cooling my lights, and exhausting spent air. THEN, and only then would I worry about seeds, nutes, yada yada........

Remember, you create the optimum conditions, you get the optimum results. And it all starts with airflow.

Call me crazy, tell me to go fuck myself, or whatver you want. I give a friend of mine clones and we grow at exact same time. We feed his same nutes as mine, aero setup as mine, HPS light.......and he has extremely shitty airflow and there is really nothing we can do for a workaround (rental apt he lives in). I double his harvest every crop easily. Blowing air around from in the house dont get it. Its got farts and germs and all kinds of shit in it. You need the fresh stuff from outside.

I never did understand why people rarely ever post questions here about "How To's" of proper ventilation.

Orange, if you dont see any point in hydro, try it out sometime.

Hope ya find a workable solution and get the results you are trying to achieve.


b0nger

[exhashsmoker]

Orange..........you need airflow d00d..........

I'll say this about all that. You got shitty ventilation, you get shitty results. Good ventilation is one of the most overlooked items, and probably one of the most important. PLants NEED fresh air, its a must. Same as us humans do.

If I were setting up a new grow area tomorrow I'd be buying fans, ducting, carbon scrubber, muffler, etc all before I even considered what to grow. And, I would have it installed and tweaked to operate as efficently as possible while providing fresh air, cooling my lights, and exhausting spent air. THEN, and only then would I worry about seeds, nutes, yada yada........

Remember, you create the optimum conditions, you get the optimum results. And it all starts with airflow.

I don't think anyone is gonna disagree with you dude but its just not possible for most indoor closet growers to get fresh air into the closet,its not practicle especially when your only trying to grow enough for yourself. Any big scale grows it is an absolte necessity!

Call me crazy, tell me to go fuck myself, or whatver you want. I give a friend of mine clones and we grow at exact same time. We feed his same nutes as mine, aero setup as mine, HPS light.......and he has extremely shitty airflow and there is really nothing we can do for a workaround (rental apt he lives in). I double his harvest every crop easily. Blowing air around from in the house dont get it. Its got farts and germs and all kinds of shit in it. You need the fresh stuff from outside.

I never did understand why people rarely ever post questions here about "How To's" of proper ventilation.

Orange, if you dont see any point in hydro, try it out sometime.

Hope ya find a workable solution and get the results you are trying to achieve.


b0nger

I don't think anyone is gonna disagree with you dude but its just not possible for most indoor closet growers to get fresh air into the closet,its not practicle especially when your only trying to grow enough for yourself. Any big scale grows it is an absolute necessity!

[madeline]

Sure it is! It's nothing to cut a small, 3" diameter hole in the wall and when done simply cover it with a painted wall vent grill when done with the grow. No one will notice it when you move out as it will look like it was put there on purpose and it'll be neatly covered and finished after you screw it into the wall! Or you could even get more involved and plaster the hole when finished but the vent grill/cover will save you needless work for about 10 bucks!

[exhashsmoker]

A vent on the inside of a closet is gonna look a bit suspect! And where would you find a vent for a 3" hole that you cut in a closet? Even plastering looks odd inside a closet..

And if your talking about venting from outside through a brick wall into a closet thats even more dodgy! How are you supposed to get away with drilling through a brick wall in an apartment block? Certainly not practical for me and im sure its not for many others too!

[bongerstonerd00d]

LOL......Hash I own rentals, and my lease specifically states you do NOT make any modifications to the interior or the exterior without prior written approval. And, I promise you that I would notice any new "vent holes" someone decided they wanted to install with their pretty new grate.

Shit, I've had rentals for the last 22 years. I have a hard time finding a tenant who can operate a fucking lawnmower let alone cut holes in drywall and then patch, prime, finish and paint when they are ready to move out.

Not to mention you cut into a water line, sewer line, or worse yet an electric line and it kills your ass trying to be stealthy. My advice to anyone in an apartment is you DO NOT cut holes in any walls.

Apartment/closet growing is tuff. Thats the bottom line.

b0nger

[orangeman]

Well I hear and understand ya bongerstonerd00d and ventilation is one of the first things I considered but I just can't do it. Now I'm not the most experienced when it comes to this but I know damn well an open door brings in fresh air from the outside of the room. If that isn't enough fresh air then I might just have a prob. I'm still gonna attempt it. If it goes bad then it just goes bad and I'll just have to either wait until I get a proper set up or continue to grow with shitty results . Either way it goes this shit is gonna happen and I'm gonna get something because I need my buds!

edit: btw hydro is just extra money to me and waste of time. I honestly believe soil is way better. Don't feel like going into details but like I have stated before, I didn't start planning this shit this year. I have been planning this for a few years. I have everything under control. I might not have everything I want or need but I know exactly what I want to do.

[Matt the Funk]

Well I hear and understand ya bongerstonerd00d and ventilation is one of the first things I considered but I just can't do it. Now I'm not the most experienced when it comes to this but I know damn well an open door brings in fresh air from the outside of the room. If that isn't enough fresh air then I might just have a prob. I'm still gonna attempt it. If it goes bad then it just goes bad and I'll just have to either wait until I get a proper set up or continue to grow with shitty results . Either way it goes this shit is gonna happen and I'm gonna get something because I need my buds!

edit: btw hydro is just extra money to me and waste of time. I honestly believe soil is way better. Don't feel like going into details but like I have stated before, I didn't start planning this shit this year. I have been planning this for a few years. I have everything under control. I might not have everything I want or need but I know exactly what I want to do.

Orangeman is smart. I think he can figure things out. Plus a lot of people like him and will be glad to help him. Plus he loves the plant. And....he wants experience...yeah....pointless post.

[orangeman]

Lol Matt. My stuff didn't come today so I'm for sure it'll be here tomorrow. I ordered it late so it probably got sent out Tuesday morning. BTW does anyone know how strict card companies are with their private policy? I have ordered a lot of shit under the same card and if anything raised a red flag all they'd have to do is pull up that one card and see all the shit I ever ordered lol. I sorta feel more paranoid than ever.

[Nocturnal Stoner]

just don't get busted man that would suck