Can God create a rock he can't lift?

[FrenchInhale]

Yeah that is what I was going to say, got created every rock on the earth, and I think people forget about all of natures storms etc... I would think that a tornado could lift a rock, and that tornado is just the imagination of God, so umm yeah he can lift a rock.

[mr chinnery]

But doesn't the question illustrate how impossible God's omnipotence is?If he is all powerful he should be able to create a rock he can't lift; but then if he can't lift it he isn't all powerful...A tornado probably could lift a rock frenchinhale, but surely God could create a rock that no tornado could lift...

[GHoSToKeR]

But doesn't the question illustrate how impossible God's omnipotence is?If he is all powerful he should be able to create a rock he can't lift; but then if he can't lift it he isn't all powerful...A tornado probably could lift a rock frenchinhale, but surely God could create a rock that no tornado could lift...

Though I see what you're trying to say, the way you're going about it doesn't quite hold. If God exists, and he is omnipotent, then surely he would be able to 'lift' anything he created... The point that he can't create something that he can't lift is irrelevant, and is merely 'clutching at straws', so to speak, if not only mentioned to create an arguement.

Actually, come to think of it, this question, to me, is irrelevant, because I don't believe, and can't comprehend, that God even does exist. So as I mentioned earlier (if not slightly revised, after some thought), if he doesn't exist, then no, he can't create a rock that he can't lift, because something that doesn't exist can't do anything, let alone create a rock.

[mr chinnery]

I agree with you that God doesn't exist, but us non-believers have the ability to think hypothetically, I hope. The question is meant to illustrate an atheist viewpoint, and naturally to start an argument (in the true sense of the word). As an atheist the question shouldn't be irrelevant to you, it's actually very useful in arguments with Christians and worth thinking about...

[meek mike]

I'm not trying to pull 'cheap tricks', just get an informed opinion from an intelligent Christian.

This is just not true. You tell your real reason later in the thread.

The question is meant to illustrate an atheist viewpoint, and naturally to start an argument.

You couldn't argue because I answered what you wanted to argue about. I first heard the question asked to my father a Baptist Preacher when I was 13 years old. That was over 13 years ago. So if you think you are coming up with something no one else has heard your mistaken. If you want to start an arguement about religion or God just make a thread that says "Arguement about Religion and God" I'll bet there will be alot of people wanting to get in on that. I prefer the BLUNT approach rather then the "here's a question that can only be answered with the wrong answer" approach.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ

[Euphoric]

i think the answer is no. god couldnt make a rock like that. thank you.

[mr chinnery]

So if you think you are coming up with something no one else has heard your mistaken

Not really; I did say I read it somewhere else...

[mr chinnery]

Also Reverend, you never actually gave your opinion on what the question means to you as a Christian...i.e does it at all make you doubt any aspect of your faith?

[meek mike]

Why would a question make me doubt my faith? Another thing is you never asked for an opinion on the question you ask to answer the question which I did. I also as you can remember gave the remarks you would have made. Which you did not deny proving that, that was the remarks you would have made if someone just answered yes or no. Question for you:

Why don't you believe in God?

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ

[meek mike]

Another thing is you never asked for an opinion on the question you ask to answer the question which I did.

My bad you asked what we think about it. I guess that could mean our opinon on the question. So here is my opinion. I think it's a cheap trick to start an argument that who knows would have won.

Rev. Michael T
Soldier for Christ