Thanks Slip.... sounds like it's going to be a while before I delve... some of that stuff sounds like memory errors,,,keep an eye on the task manager and see if something is leaking memory... IE7 is not the greatest either I back all my machines out of it and using 6 again...

if MS is going to try and control Piracy at least make it work before you sell it :hippy: :hippy: :hippy: Administrator privilege,,,I am the F$#%in Administrator!!!LOLz...

Thanks I am interested in what is happening,,,I got a friend that is going to be needing a puter and she is gonna get a Dell,,,I told her I will wipe it and put her xp on it but,,,she is afraid and wants to keep Vista...