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    The devil arrives in Guatemala

    Priests to "Purify" site after Bush visit
    by MA Liberal
    Fri Mar 09, 2007 at 07:28:09 AM PST
    This is gonna be short, but I figure it's good for a laugh. There's a short piece in today's Boston Globe

    GUATEMALA CITY --Mayan priests will purify a sacred archaeological site to eliminate "bad spirits" after President Bush visits next week, an official with close ties to the group said Thursday.

    "That a person like (Bush), with the persecution of our migrant brothers in the United States, with the wars he has provoked, is going to walk in our sacred lands, is an offense for the Mayan people and their culture,"

    Juan Tiney, the director of a Mayan nongovernmental organization with close ties to Mayan religious and political leaders, said Thursday.

    Gee do ya think?

    MA Liberal's diary :: ::
    Tiney said the "spirit guides of the Mayan community" decided it would be necessary to cleanse the sacred site of "bad spirits" after Bush's visit so that their ancestors could rest in peace. He also said the rites -- which entail chanting and burning incense, herbs and candles -- would prepare the site for the third summit of Latin American Indians March 26-30.

    I've often thought that whoever gets into the White House in 2008 should have some sort of "cleansing" ritual to rid it of the evil that has resided there since 2000. The pain, suffering and destruction wrought by Bush, Cheney, et al, is something that will take many years to fix.
    Seems like the Mayans are on the right track.

    Apologies to all that I won't be here to respond and comment. I'm on my way out the door for a quick weekend getaway. But when I read this, I laughed out loud.
    Of course, that it is also tragic that we have a leader who is so hated by the world is cause for alarm and sadness. But sometimes you've just gotta laugh at the pure ridiculousness of the situation and be glad that there's folks like the Mayans who aren't afraid to call Bush for what he is.

    Cheers to all, have a great weekend. And keep that incense burnin'!!
    medicinal Reviewed by medicinal on . The devil arrives in Guatemala Priests to "Purify" site after Bush visit by MA Liberal Fri Mar 09, 2007 at 07:28:09 AM PST This is gonna be short, but I figure it's good for a laugh. There's a short piece in today's Boston Globe GUATEMALA CITY --Mayan priests will purify a sacred archaeological site to eliminate "bad spirits" after President Bush visits next week, an official with close ties to the group said Thursday. "That a person like (Bush), with the persecution of our migrant brothers in the United States, Rating: 5
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    The devil arrives in Guatemala

    Quote Originally Posted by medicinal
    Of course, that it is also tragic that we have a leader who is so hated by the world is cause for alarm and sadness. But sometimes you've just gotta laugh at the pure ridiculousness of the situation and be glad that there's folks like the Mayans who aren't afraid to call Bush for what he is.

    Cheers to all, have a great weekend. And keep that incense burnin'!!
    LMAO! They used to say the same about R. Reagan.....now their ready to add his mug to Mount Rushmore. We'll see how the history books judge him.

    Have a good one!:s4:

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    The devil arrives in Guatemala

    Maybe the Mayan priests ought to be reminded of their barbaric past, in their "sacred land" and "culture". They'd still be doing exactly the same things if the Spanish hadn't stopped them.

    [align=center]Maya Human Sacrifice ... Say it isn't so.[/align]

    Warfare among the Maya was considerably different from modem combat where opposing forces attempt to annihilate their enemies entirely on the field of battle. First of all, the Maya world was divided into polities, or city-states, that would at times be at peace with each other or under different circumstances fight with each other. The aim of this rather limited warfare was to take prisoners. Low status captives generally wound up as slaves to their captor, but high-status captives were scheduled for ritual sacrifice. The deliberate taking of a human life was deemed necessary to sanctify certain ritual occasions, such as the ascendancy to the throne by a new ruler or the dedication of a new building. Naturally the capture of a rival ruler was highly prized, as the sacrifice of the unfortunate individual lent extra importance to the occasion. The usual method of such a sacrifice was decapitation in a public ceremony. Aside from decapitation, the favored method in Postclassic times was a trick acquired from the Mexican cultures to the north, the removal of the heart. Women and children were sacrificed just as often as men The intended victim was stripped and painted blue before being led to a courtyard or temple where the victim would be placed face-up over a convex altar-like stone also painted blue. The arms and legs of the victim were held by specially designated priests while a fourth, called the nacom, would penetrate the victim's chest with a flint knife just below the left breast. Reaching inside the chest cavity, the nacom would pull out the still beating heart and hand it to another priest, who would then smear the blood on that idol to which the sacrifice had been made. If the sacrifice had taken place on the top of a pyramid, the corpse would be thrown to the courtyard below where priests of lower rank would skin the victim except for the hands and feet. The skin would then be worn by the officiating priest who would solemnly dance among the spectators. If the victim had been an especially brave warrior his body might be butchered and eaten by the nobles and other spectators.


    A bow and arrow was also used in human sacrifice. The victim was stripped, painted blue and bound to a stake. According to a sixteenth century .account, " The foul priest in vestments went up and wounded the victims in parts of shame, whether it was a man or woman, and drew blood and came down and anointed the face of the idol with it."

    Dancers, all armed with bows and arrows " began one after another to shoot at his heart ... in this manner they made his whole chest ... like a hedgehog of arrows"

    A recently discovered painting at Tikal shows a man who has been bound to a stake and disemboweled.

    The famous Sacred Cenote (a natural well) located at Chichen-Itza was found to contain numerous skeletons of men, women and children who were sacrificial victims. Bishop de Landa, in the sixteenth century reported: "Into this well they have the custom of throwing Men alive as a sacrifice to the gods in times of drought, and they believed they did not die though they never saw them."

    As bad as all this sounds the Maya were amateurs when it came to human sacrifice on a massive scale. The Aztecs of Central. Mexico, many years later, once sacrificed twenty thousand people in a single ceremony to commemorate the dedication of a new temple. Then they ate them.



    Dr. Herman Smith



    Maya Human Sacrifice ... Say it isn't so, Archaeology on Ambergris Caye, Belize

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    #4
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    The devil arrives in Guatemala

    Perhaps but I believe the key word in all that is "past"

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    #5
    Senior Member

    The devil arrives in Guatemala

    Quote Originally Posted by Weedhound
    Perhaps but I believe the key word in all that is "past"
    "Mayan priests will purify a sacred archaeological site to eliminate "bad spirits"

    Soooo what your saying is that there are no evil spirits currently at a site where they did human sacrifice? I wonder is the Mayans practiced bipartisanship.......

    Have a good one!:s4:

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    #6
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    The devil arrives in Guatemala

    No actually what I mean is that they don't do it anymore.....at least.....I HOPE NOT! (Do they?.....I'm talking about the human sacrifice part.)

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    #7
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    The devil arrives in Guatemala

    Can't resist urge to post it. Replace Georgia with Guatemala. And my friends in Brazil still giving my crap on MSN for sending him down there.

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    #8
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    The devil arrives in Guatemala

    They should come up here and purify our land...........mybad they already here..illegally

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    #9
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    The devil arrives in Guatemala

    Quote Originally Posted by Zimzum
    Can't resist urge to post it Replace Georgia with Guatemala. And my friends in Brazil still giving my crap on MSN for sending him down there.
    That was good.

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