Cool, thanks for all the replies everybody. At least it doesn't sound like I'm on the verge of imminent death.

It seems most people aren't familiar with Tramadol, so a little info:

It's a synthetic opiod analgesic. It's mechanism is that of a partial morphine receptor agonist. This means it works the same way as morphine, but it's only 10% as strong because only about 10% of the tramadol manages to bind to the morphine receptors.

jesus.....

ask for vicodin...or oxy?...or valium...?

somethin without ace.
Believe me, I would LOVE it if i could get oxycontin, morphine, vicodin, any of that. Oxy and Vic do still have acetaminophen, but at that strength I'd only have to take 1 pill's worth rather than 4; not to mention I'd actually get more than half-assed sorta/kinda pain relief. But, the problem is nerve damage in my spine and since they're still trying to figure out exactly what is going on (not holding my breath on that one), I don't have a clear diagnosis. And since I don't have a nice neat label for my condition, no significantly strong opiate painkillers for me. I'm considering changing doctors though, maybe someone else would be more accomodating.


I know several people who drink lemon juice along with cayenne pepper as a cleanse while fasting...
I think I'll try that, thanks Poly.

But I don't know how effective it might be if you're still taking all the pills... Have you considered talking to a nutritionist?
No, but I've talked to every other health professional under the sun and I'm very knowledgeable about nutrition myselfl; IE. I constantly research nutrition and learn new things, study methods for healing etc. Not that anything has really worked...but then I've tried anything and everything, so I don't really expect to find a means of getting better anymore.

Celebrex and IBU are cleared by the kidneys and not the liver. 1300 mg of tylenol is well withing the daily maximum limits without causing liver damage. I would have to look up tramadol but that is a small dose too.
That's good to hear... kinda, but I hope my kindney's are good now. 1,300 is within liver tolerance, but it can cause liver failure at only 2,500. The reason 1,300 is still of great concern is because those doses are based on acute levels, not prolonged daily administration.

The best way to heal a liver, assuming it's not infected with a virus or with cancer is to eat a balanced diet, avoid harmful medicines and alcohol, exercise, and allow it to "detoxify" (that word always makes me suspicious when I read it) itself.
Good advice birdgirl, but nothing I don't already do. Thanks anyway.

how about asking your doctor?

i am not trying to be difficult, but i think your dr can answer this and make any changes and suggestions better than any of us, who dont know you....
Ugh, but unfortunately doctors seem to be indoctrinated with the belief that tylenol by the pound is just all-super-healthy. They all seem to think it's no concern at all, and one even told me to just load up on it when I can manage without the Tramadol (which is never). While doctors may be experts in the medical field, they still have to keep up with up-coming research and keep learning. I've met doctors who knew less about Tramadol, nutrition, and a few other things than me. I'm not trying to be conceited either, this is information I've learned from specialists and papers from accredited research institutions.


Anywhoo, even if I'm not taking toxic doses, it's still a big concern since I'm 21 and it seems I'm never going to get better. I mean I can't expect to live to, lets say 81, by taking daily doses of all these pain meds for 60 years. Frankly I think it would be healthier if I could just get strait opium or morphine and take it in smaller-medium doses, without all the added stuff.
mrdevious Reviewed by mrdevious on . How long does my liver have? I've been really getting concerned about my liver, since it must be in the same shape as an alcoholic's. I mean, I'm only 21 (almost 22) and have been taking huge amounts of painkillers for 5 years. So I was wondering if anybody has an idea of how much a liver can take? For the first 4 years I was taking an average of 500mg accetaminophen (tylenol), 200mg celebrix, and 600mg ibeprophen a day. Since my pain got worse, I've stepped it up a notch. In the past half-year I've been taking 650mg Rating: 5