How long does my liver have?

[surreys princess]

there is a great scientific/medical search engone called SCIRUS....maybe you can find some info there...i often find things there i cant find on google, or vice versa...

[robert42]

this may or may not interest you:

Erowid Experience Vaults: Tramadol (& occasional benzodiazepines) - Part 3: 3 Months Heavy Use & Withdrawal - 40106
Tramadol - Addiction Forum

some symptoms of withdrawel i beleive are: horrible dreams, anxiety attacks, memory problems, insomnia, pains,chills,restless feet, rolling around in bed

info on the web is pretty shitty i agree, other info suggests its more phycologygically (sp?) addictive then physical, but overall its pretty addictive

[FakeBoobsRule]

Believe me, I would LOVE it if i could get oxycontin, morphine, vicodin, any of that. Oxy and Vic do still have acetaminophen, but at that strength I'd only have to take 1 pill's worth rather than 4

Actually, Oxycontin has no tylenol in it. Oxycontin is a 2 phase dose of oxycodone alone. They say it is a continous release (hence the name, OXYcodone CONTINuous release) but it really releases half of the dose within 30 minutes of taking it and then the other half is released around 4-6 hours later, depending on the person. Percocet and Tylox contain oxycodone and tylenol. Percodan contains oxycodone and aspirin. All hydrocodone preparations contain tylenol but in varying degrees depending on the brand name or generic used. Norco usually has the lowest amount of tylenol while Lortab is middle of the road and Vicodin and Lorcet usually have the higher amounts of tylenol.

That's good to hear... kinda, but I hope my kindney's are good now. 1,300 is within liver tolerance, but it can cause liver failure at only 2,500. The reason 1,300 is still of great concern is because those doses are based on acute levels, not prolonged daily administration.

Just because something is metabolized or eliminated by your kidneys doesn't mean it is going to damage them. Celebrex and IBU are very safe drugs when it comes to your kidneys. Celebrex is a Cox-2 inhibitor and was designed to increase safety as well as reduce gastro-intestinal side effects. Many drugs in the NSAID (non-steriodal anti-inflammatory drugs) class such as Voltaren or Lodine or Naprosyn work great for the pain but can cause stomach sensitivity if taken for long periods of time. There is almost zero incidence of stomach problems with Celebrex. IBU is a NSAID but it is still very gentle on the stomach.

Going back to the tylenol and the liver, actually the longer you take tylenol, the easier it is on the liver in many cases. Like Birdgirl said the liver is a very strong and resilient organ. I am sure you are aware that hydrocodone is abused by many people and I know of people who at the height of their abuse have taken nearly 100 sometimes 150 pills a day. That is easily enough tylenol (30-100 grams depending on the type of hydrocodone and how many) to cause death but with prolonged use the liver finds new metabolic pathways to eliminate tylenol from the body. You would think that those that have abused hydrocodone for long periods of time would have livers that look like swiss cheese but that is usually not the case.

Tramadol was brought to market as a painkiller with a lower potential for abuse. Most people do not abuse it but there is a potential for abuse. It is not physically addictive however. Just because you take it for long periods of time doesn't mean you will abuse it or become addicted to it. As far as signs of abuse or addiction, if it is interferring with your life or you become obsessed with tramadol, then those would be glaring signs. It is hard to say what the signs are because if you use it the way you are supposed to and you are not predisposed for addiction (such as family history of addiction or alcoholism) then there is not much to look for.




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[realgood]

hey mr devious, Are you familiar with the Life Extension Foundation ? Life Extension Foundation - Highest Quality Vitamins And Supplements you might find their website of interest. They have a really great article on the supplement SAM-e and it's benefits for healing the liver and over all function. Le Magazine, June 1997 - Report: Same Part 3: The Liver Super-Nutrient I take the stuff myself for mood but it really is remarkable how much healthier I just feel over all while taking it. It is also being looked into for its anti cancerous benefits/arthritis and joint benefits. Overall good stuff. Wish ya luck figuring out the root of the pain.

[lazy smoker7]

You know I realy hate tramadol.. I was taking alot of tramadol for some pains in my neck a while back and the tramadol was some how hurting my liver or sumtin but after taking so much tramadol I was getting these weird pains on the sides of my body.... actually now that i think about it it wasnt pure tramadol ... so maybe thats better than what i was taking... but i was taking tramacet wich also has an extra dose of acepetomain (dunno spelling) which i think was causing the problems...

[medicinal]

Not trying to be a smart ass here, but the best pain reliever is morphine or Heroin. People can live for years on managed doses. The real problem is getting regulated doses. The street drug will eleviate the pain, but you never know what your getting. Too bad Dr.s don't have compassion for this type of pain. You almost have to be dead from Cancer to get this drug when a regulated dose of morphine would work well for this pain and leave your liver and kidneys in good shape. There is always the possibility of addiction, but what is worse addiction or the pain. Anyway, it's a thought. I'm 66 years old, so if I had a huge amount of pain, I'd go to the street and get my relief. The thing would be, to control the desire for the high that goes with it. I've been around junkies and they put H ahead of everything else in their life. they would and have stolen from family members, robbed and done atrocious things to get their fixes. I'd have to say, don't get hooked on the high, @ 21, you have a lot of life left. A friend of mine became addicted to oxycontin after a whiplash injury that wouldn't go away. The pain was so bad that after he went cold turkey to get off the oxy., he killed himself and his 10 year old daughter and 80 year old mother, blew their heads off, then blew his off.

[NewbiePacker]

1,300mg acetaminophen, will fuckin kill the liver in the long run....I tell everyone dont take the shit peroid.....

And who ever said Valium is not a pain killer at all.............