thanks so much guys

kdspecial- your way sounds a whole hell of a bunch easier than the test kits...less technicall at least. your right the test kits are available at just about any place with a decent gardening center. the one i picked up wasn't any more than 10$ and it measures PH, N, P, K.

tokudai- thanxz so much your literally a life saver...short of this i would have had to try and figures out a way to give CPR to my green gals LOL