haha there does seem to be a lot of treads about these cellulose wraps. i got some, i like em, make good roaches cuz they're all resiny but they go out all the time and they have a shrink wrap effect while your burning half way through. id rather pick up some RAWs because they seem to be my new favorite. best of both worlds (cellulose and paper) i say. you get the taste like cellulose but it burns like a paper jay would. woot! now go.....buy some now!