The secrets out

[medicinal]

US: Secret CIA Prisoners Still Missing
Washington Should Reveal Fate of People â??Disappearedâ?? by US
(New York, February 27, 2007) â?? The US government should account for all the missing detainees once held by the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), Human Rights Watch said in a report released today.

The CIA program â?? and the civilian leaders who created it â?? have inflicted tremendous harm on the reputation, moral standing, and integrity of the United States. Itâ??s time for President Bush to repudiate this program, and to take steps to repair the damage it has done.

Joanne Mariner, terrorism and counterterrorism director at Human Rights Watch

Ghost Prisoner: Two Years in Secret CIA Detention
Report, February 27, 2007

The 50-page report, â??Ghost Prisoner: Two Years in Secret CIA Detention,â?� contains a detailed description of a secret CIA prison from a Palestinian former detainee who was released from custody last year. Human Rights Watch has also sent a public letter to US President George W. Bush requesting information about the fate and whereabouts of the missing detainees.

â??President Bush told us that the last 14 CIA prisoners were sent to Guantanamo, but there are many other prisoners â??disappearedâ?? by the CIA whose fate is still unknown,â?� said Joanne Mariner, terrorism and counterterrorism director at Human Rights Watch. â??The question is: what happened to these people and where are they now?â?�

In early September, 14 detainees were transferred from secret CIA prisons to military custody at Guantanamo Bay. In a televised speech on September 6, President Bush announced that with those 14 transfers, no prisoners were left in CIA custody.

The former CIA detainee, Marwan Jabour, told Human Rights Watch about a number of other people who were in CIA detention but whose present whereabouts are unknown. Jabour saw one of these men, Algerian terrorism suspect Yassir al-Jazeeri, as recently as July 2006 in CIA custody.

â??The Bush administration needs to provide a full accounting of everyone who was â??disappearedâ?? into CIA prisons, including their names, locations, and when they left US custody,â?� Mariner said.

Human Rights Watchâ??s letter to Bush contained two lists of missing detainees. The first list names 16 people whom Human Rights Watch believes were held in CIA prisons and whose current whereabouts are unknown. The second list names 22 people who may have been held in CIA prisons and whose current whereabouts are unknown.

Human Rights Watch expressed concern about what may have happened to the missing prisoners. One possibility is that the US may have transferred some of them to foreign prisons where they remain under the CIAâ??s effective control.

Another worrying possibility is that prisoners were transferred from CIA custody to places where they may face torture. A serious concern is that some of the missing prisoners might have been returned to their countries of origin, which include Algeria, Egypt, Libya and Syria, where the torture of terrorism suspects is common.

The new report provides the most comprehensive account to date of life in a secret CIA prison, as well as new information regarding 38 possible detainees. The report explains that these prisonersâ?? treatment by the CIA constitutes enforced disappearance, a practice that is absolutely prohibited under international law.

Marwan Jabour was arrested by Pakistani authorities in May 2004 in Pakistan and held for more than a month at a secret facility in Islamabad operated by both US and Pakistani personnel, during which time he was badly abused. In June, he was flown to another secret prison, which he believes was in Afghanistan, where all or nearly all of the personnel were American.

His clothes were taken from him when he arrived, and he was left completely naked for a month and a half, including during questioning by women interrogators and filming. He was chained tightly to the wall of his small cell so that he could not stand up, placed in painful stress positions so that he had difficulty breathing, and told that if he did not cooperate he would be put in a suffocating â??dog box.â?�

During the more than two years that he was held in this secret prison, Jabour spent nearly all of his time alone in a windowless cell, with little human contact besides his captors. Although he worried incessantly about his wife and three young daughters, he was not allowed even to send them a letter to reassure them that he was alive.

â??It was a grave,â?� Jabour later told Human Rights Watch. â??I felt like my life was over.â?�

The wife of another former CIA detainee whose whereabouts remain unknown told Human Rights Watch that she has had to lie to her four children about her husbandâ??s â??disappearance.â?� She explained that she could not bear telling them that she did not know where he was.

â??What Iâ??m hoping,â?� she said, â??is if they find out their father has been detained, that Iâ??ll at least be able to tell them what country heâ??s being held in, and in what conditions.â?�

Enforced disappearance involves arbitrary, secret and incommunicado detention, and poses a serious risk to the right to life and to protection from torture and other mistreatment. As these cases make clear, enforced disappearance also inflicts severe mental pain and suffering on the â??disappearedâ?� personâ??s family.

Human Rights Watch expressed grave concern about President Bushâ??s stated view that the Military Commissions Act of 2006 permits the government to restart the CIAâ??s secret prison program. Human Rights Watch called upon the Bush administration to reject the use of secret detention and coercive interrogation as tactics in fighting terrorism, and announce that the CIAâ??s detention and interrogation program has been permanently discontinued.

â??The CIA program â?? and the civilian leaders who created it â?? have inflicted tremendous harm on the reputation, moral standing, and integrity of the United States,â?� Mariner said. â??Itâ??s time for President Bush to repudiate this program, and to take steps to repair the damage it has done.â?�

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[Dr.Hashman]

I went to Cuba when I was in 8th grade to setup a clinic and it was such a great country, too bad we send everyone who is a national threat there lol. I only saw Guantanamo on a map, we never went to that part of the island sadly.

So what do you think is happening to the prisoners? Torture? I think they are if they aren't cooperating since there have been reports of people getting tortured before. What about poor living conditions? I bet they are in a 5x8x10 room and sit there until they get interrogated more. Its sad the things that this world does.

[Bong30]

I wonder How Nick Berg was treated?

[medicinal]

I wonder How Nick Berg was treated?

So, are you saying two wrongs make a right? I thought we had the high moral ground, it seems not! We, (this regime), Has broken every treaty on the books in this "War on terror" and hasn't slowed the terror machine one bit, in fact he (GW Bush) has recruited more terrorists with the war in Iraq than Al-Queda could have with all their resourses. Yeah, you can brag about how we've not been attacked in this country since 911, but thats more a matter of luck than security. Our borders are wide opem, our ports are wide open, our nuclear and chemical plants stand un-guarded, pure ass luck! If we don't start taking our security seriously, Kaboom, something is bound to happen.

[Dr.Hashman]

Some of our biggest ports are owned by foriegn companies, just a little something to think about.

[Bong30]

So, are you saying two wrongs make a right?
Its 2 wrongs dont Make a right.....try and try agian med....

I tell my 5 and Six year old that...good job you are as smart as them....maybe?

I thought we had the high moral ground, it seems not!

1 gets Prayer mats = 1 gets head cut off....hummm you have a weird sence of values????

We, (this regime), Has broken every treaty on the books in this "War on terror" and hasn't slowed the terror machine one bit, in fact he (GW Bush) has recruited more terrorists with the war in Iraq than Al-Queda could have with all their resourses.

No we have not, we have broken some rules and paid the price. I know of a soldier that just went to jail for doing the wrong thing in Iraq....Huummm????


Yeah, you can brag about how we've not been attacked in this country since 911, but thats more a matter of luck than security.

We wont be attacked here either till after the 08 election.... See the terrorist like you enemy within type want a democrat president IE a (big Pussy for a president)

So If we are attacked here again Bush will be right and you will be wrong. And we know that Libs cant be wrong.....IE like Voter fraud....LOL only when GOP wins...LOL yeah thats it...LOL

Our borders are wide opem, our ports are wide open, our nuclear and chemical plants stand un-guarded, pure ass luck! If we don't start taking our security seriously, Kaboom, something is bound to happen.

My biggest Beef with Bush is the Border......We need to close the border NOW.

Remember The left wing Media Hate Bush more than they love the country....

things you wont hear, between now and the election....

wont hear

any good going on in Iraq.....

wont hear
any thing good about the economy....matter fact Libs would hurt economy if possible

wont hear
about any terrorist attacks on US soil..... Makes Bush right Libs wrong...cant have that..... terrorist want a democrat for president....

[Dr.Hashman]

terrorist want a democrat for president....

Wasn't it Lyndon B Johnson that stepped up the bombing in Vietnam? He was a democrat and the "freedom fighters" of the day were scared of him.

[Bong30]

talking about TODAY..... Radical islam is a Much bigger threat than we faced in Viet Nam.... after saying that...


What did "Hillary special" say?


she said if she were president...she would pull out, like Bill pulled out of Monica...LOL


One says pull out of Iraq (D)

One says stay fight hold and win (R)

who do you want to win.......(you are an america hating terrorist)

you pick commie Pinko (D).... for the pull out

[medicinal]

Remember The left wing Media Hate Bush more than they love the country....

things you wont hear, between now and the election....

wont hear

any good going on in Iraq.....

wont hear
any thing good about the economy....matter fact Libs would hurt economy if possible

wont hear
about any terrorist attacks on US soil..... Makes Bush right Libs wrong...cant have that..... terrorist want a democrat for president....

Bonger, it's entirely impossible to take you seriously. You are so deluded that the light of common sense will never find a crack to penetrate that thick skull. Your comparative arguements are about on a 3rd grade level at best. Why don't you go smoke some crack and read Mine Kamph again. Read up on the holocaust, get the blood flowing in the putrific area you call a mind.. Maybe you should start with the ABCs, I think you haven't quite mastered them yet. Then you can post more of your putrid hate mongering bullshit. Sig-Heil, Sig-Heil!

[Bong30]

Bonger, it's entirely impossible to take you seriously. You are so deluded that the light of common sense will never find a crack to penetrate that thick skull. Your comparative arguements are about on a 3rd grade level at best. Why don't you go smoke some crack and read Mine Kamph again. Read up on the holocaust, get the blood flowing in the putrific area you call a mind.. Maybe you should start with the ABCs, I think you haven't quite mastered them yet. Then you can post more of your putrid hate mongering bullshit. Sig-Heil, Sig-Heil!

See Moron.....you use words like those ^^^^ when you are losing the debate....

Im sure you are used to losing by now......