Rev's Grow Log- 1st Stage: from legs to bush

[Tomthehippie]

Hmmm. I've heard much debate on the subject of 24/7 vs 18/6. A simple question, and one that I'll inevitable have to grapple with sooner or later:
how do I keep temps steady @ 'night'?

Small fan heater with A thermostat

Tomthehippie Reviewed by Tomthehippie on 03-05-2007. Rev's Grow Log- 1st Stage: from legs to bush Welcome to Rev's Grow Log Come, see the 1st 4 entries of my grow log! So far so good. my seedlings started out super leggy, but have really bushed out since the transplant. This is my 3rd indoor grow attempt, the 1st two having failed. (1st: over watering, temp flux & heat, 2nd nute burn) Havne't yet feed the plants, keeping temps @ 75-80, hum @ 50-60, 250mh 24/7. Have 24sq. feet. and a 400 hps/mh digital and want to line walls w/ flouros. Have hermetically sealed the room and Rating: 5

[rev]

Whaddup!

Ok. Been growin for 3 weeks now from leggy sprout phase.
The nutes [@ 4 nodes growth] went well from what I can tell. Some are up to 6 nodes now.
Check the new Light! 400w agro. I'm losing a little light through the top of the glass, but it works for now. Amped up the exhaust to compensate for the extra heat. Wanna weld on some custom fitting so I can hose the heat directly out. If I even stick with it...Am thinking about a cooltube, I could see this getting too hot.

Note the clutter in b.g. I'm making racks for vert. fluoros. canopy already starting to thicken. wanna get side lighting to all those burgeoning lateral growths. Am thinking about a ScrOG (or however you guys capitalize it)

These really GROW. Its almost scary! They are going to be crowded soon unless I start some super croping, or LSTing, etc. Also, I think a transplant may be in order soon, though I'd like to sex them first, whereupon I'd like to rock some clones. Any advice?

The big question is do I scrog or lettem shoot up? I have the height. I thought if I interspersed these fluoros i could get the light penetration on the vert...tho I've never seen anyone do that.

Pics are 3/2, 3/6 [crappy cell phone], and the homeade light.

Thanx for droppin by
-rev

[rev]

Oh and greenfog thanks for the heads up bout the wire, but its not live, ist a part of the floro racks I'm makin up.

[blank_21]

Buy a digital thermometer that you can attach a heater too, then set the thermometer to switch the heater on when the temp gets too low :jointsmile:

[Tomthehippie]

loooking good man! that lamp shade looks mad! lol.

[TheGreenFog]

Hey, rev. Lookin' good.

Well, first off, glad the nutes are going well. I don't see any burns. So you're up to 4-6 nodes now?

Hmmm...WWTGFD? Well, I would most likely top those plants now, and clone the tops. Then, when the tops rooted (1-2 wks), I would throw them into a temporary flower chamber, where I would determine their sex (another 1-2 wks).

In the mean time, my original plants would have been a bit stunted by the topping, but filling out on the sides due to the transfer of hormones to the sideshoots. This would also give me about 1 month to finish vegging them and training them to whatever form I would prefer.

SCRoG (that's how I capitalize it)...is good...very good, but not a beginner's task, if you ask me. You can get close to the same results by pruning (topping) and/or LSTing your plants to make them bush out and just flower them like that.

If I wanted to avoid topping, I would LST them now (bend them over) and then wait for a viable clone to pop up so I could cut it for sexing...but that would take longer...maybe another 1-2 wks.

I wouldn't personally just let them shoot up because then they become difficult to deal with, even with side lighting. The side lighting IS a good idea, though, but I think you probably haven't seen many people use them purposely to grow a tall plant because they just aren't as effective as Sodium lamps.

Let us know what you decide! Good luck.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[FredfromDesire]

Hey Rev..looking good! Yours are bit bigger and bushier than mine. Good work! I am in the same boat as you. I am going to wait till I find out the sex and then will transplant. I guess I will eventually have to LST, however I am not really looking forward to it because I am not exactly sure what I am doing.

[rev]

I love being not exactly sure what I'm doing, cause that means I'm learning!

Thank all for the advice and support

a few q's...

how would an 18/6 schedule affect the development of viable clone vs. 24 hr?
I already have a flowering chamber...its my first cab, now attached to the ceiling in my new G.R.! (see pic!)

Do I cut under last node and...never mind, I can research cloning.

I've heard of some people just putting a bag over selected branches to determine sex. My guess is this works, but is too labor intensive? seems like it would be quicker tho.


Why shouldn't a noob attempt a ScRoG?

There are 2 plants that want to shoot up, the other 5 are staying super bushy. Take a look at the side shot of a bushier 1, specifically the lower lateral growth. Are these clone worthy yet? Guess I'm a little pensive about topping all of them, as speed is a priority for me at this point...

Also c a better overall shot

Talk soon!

-rev

[rev]

Temps running a bit high w/ the new light, 80 +/- 3. Humidity 35-40. Am giving plants 250w MH from the side as well as 400 from the top. Noticing impressive lateral growth, as well as some interesting stem undulations. Could directional side lighting be a form of LSTing?

Want to water today. Am debating whether or not to fert w/ same solution I did a few days ago, or to give them a break. Also am really considering a transplant. My old plants started dropping leaves when I didn't give them enough root room!! WWYD?

-rev

[FredfromDesire]

Hey Rev...looks like I am going to have to transplant today. Looking at mine, they just really need to be. What are you thinking?