Quote Originally Posted by Chronic Chrissy
So you are mad because you can't buy booze or smokes but you can own a house and go to war at 18?:wtf: WTF does that have to do with being a good parent. In my opinion when you become a parent the smoking goes out the window and the drinking turns into one or two glasses a week with your spouse to do something special on the weekend. How can you afford smokes and booze while finishing school, even if you have a full time job you can' squeeze the extra money for you extras unless you take money away from what the baby and your partner need. If you really want to know the thruth I didn't just move out one day la di da. I went throught court systems and CFS, I fought hard to move out and became emancipated, which freed me from my parents custody and granted me my own gaurdianship. I was given a special little card that allowed me to sign legal documents and take advantage of what adults here had the right to, which ment I could also walk into a bar at 16 and buy a drink. Took a while to explain, show my card and get verification from the government that I was indeed allowed, it was a lengthy process but after a few faxes I could go out to the bar. But I worked my ass off getting that little card, signing contracts that said I would finish school or be charged with fruad.


Here 18 is the magic number and I think that is wrong. I would prefer the drinking age be 21 because most of the time anyone I've ever seen drinking under that age has abused alcohol, getting right wasted and doing very irresponsible things. Yes people over 21 drink irresponsibly too but not in the mass numbers all collected in one place, and not till they pass out and do stupid shit they don't even remember. The other thing too is the having 18 the age makes it easier for 15 and 16 year olds to get into the bar and buy stuff. After a while of fucking with the long process of the card I just picked up a fake ID and my problems getting into bars was solved.

So here's the question. How old are you? How old is your child? What's your living arrangment with your family(spouse and child)? Have finished highschool? Do you support your spouse and child fully, or do you and your spouse at least support your family soully without the help of others for money? Do you live in a safe area of town? DO you protect your child from smoking and being in the presence of intoxicated people? Do you spend all the free time you have with your child because you want to?

Just having a baby and a place to live doesn't make you a responsible parent or bring you closer to being an adult. A crack hoar can pop out 5 kids in four years and live in a car, doesn't make her a responsible adult.

You tell us the whole situation and we'll tell you if you're a responsible parent. Don't come here and whine because you can't buy smokes and booze, and because society has created a steriotype which you are judged upon.

I walked across the stage to recieve my diploma with honors on top of it, 8 months pregnant. People didn't see a home owner with a job and husband, people saw a teenage who made it just in time. I remember hearing the whispers as I walked up there, the whole room was humming. My family video taped it and won't let me see it because it picked up comments from people in the audience. I know about steriotyping and hold my head high against it. It still happens in stores or going for walks, or just getting out. It doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is how much happy time and love I invest in my child and teaching my child to break away from the blind society and see life for what it is.

I'm done rambling. I though you were a proud young parent who was a little down by glares and whispers. Not some kid crying about wanting to drink and smoke.:wtf:
i would have a response if that had any relevance to what i was trying to say...

the only thing i really have to say about the whole thing is smoking out the window when you have a kid? fuck no

smoking is not wrong, bad, impractival, or immoral, if my child wants to smoke when he gets older(like mid teens) i wont have a problem with it

also i do not have a kid, i dont see where anywhere i stated that i had a child or anything of the sort

oh yeah, one more thing, money is not an issue, the crack whore thing was a bad example because i stated "have kid, have house, be good parent"

im 16 and a half million dollar home is well within my price range