Swingers thread

[Gatekeeper777]

I don't understand how people view marriage as "just a piece of paper". Yes, it is a contract, but it is more than just a physical contract. It is also an emotional contract between the two people, and this emotional contract is one of the most important that people will ever enter into their entire lives.

Additionally, I want my partner to be happy too, and he wants me to be happy. And there are times that I look at men and lust intensely after them, but I do not need to be with them. It would not make me any happier to fuck someone else then it would to fuck my partner, and it would in fact make me happiest to just spend hours fucking my partner.

We don't get bored in bed together, and we don't get bored in life together. I cannot see how my life would benefit from swinging, and neither can he.

as it is said in the bible.... if you lust after them in your heart then so you have had relations with them, ...... so in effect even tho you wanna.. according to god you allready did. so if your goona get nailed with the sin, ya might as well nail someone else. I use the bible as i see it touted alot around here.
God bless us all everyone.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

Gatekeeper, just a couple more questions, if you'll bear with me.

I find it interesting that you ended your post with "Blessed Be". Are you Wiccan? If so, how can you state that death is forever?

And whose idea was it for you and your wife to start swinging, yours or hers, and at what point in your relationship did the conversation arise? I recall that on the True Confessions thread you stated that you fucked your wife's sister. Are these two incidents related (no pun intended) in any way?

Okay, I think that's it for my curiousity. I eagerly await your reply.

[Gatekeeper777]

ok, yes i am wiccan, altho i am not a hard liner so to speak i do tend to take some teaching with a grain of salt. (lol)
when I stated death is forever I should have ben more clear when i ment Death of the body, no fucking my sister in law is in no way related to our swinging.
that was before we decided to do it. Swinging was a conversation that we both was curious about, but as far as breaking the ice on the conversation i believe I spoke first about it. NOT so I can go out and tag every female i see. but as a way to express her sexuality and i can get fringe benifits.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

I have several friends who are swingers (pagans and swinging seem to go together like peas and carrots), but I have always been reluctant to ask them questions about swinging because I don't want them to think I am the least bit interested. I have a hard enough time keeping my friends' husbands from groping me at parties. So I appreciate you taking the time to discuss this with me.

Thank you for your patience. Your answers have been quite informative.

[vileoxidation]

as it is said in the bible.... if you lust after them in your heart then so you have had relations with them, ...... so in effect even tho you wanna.. according to god you allready did. so if your goona get nailed with the sin, ya might as well nail someone else. I use the bible as i see it touted alot around here.
God bless us all everyone.

"As it said in the Bible..."

Okay, but you are a Wiccan, and I don't run my life according to the Bible, so that doesn't ring true for me. I can appreciate the beauty of another human being's body without having "had relations" with them in my mind.

marriage is nothing but a contract

marrying someone has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with loving somebody

im going to love my girl regardless of whether a little piece of paper says i do or not

Okay, I agree. The actual piece of paper stating the marriage is not the contract I mean. I believe in rights for homosexuals, and respect that even if the government doesn't recognize their union they are still wed.

However, the contract I am talking about is an EMOTIONAL one. It can be made by any people at any time, but the most common time is as the same time as the actual marriage. This is a contract between the two people, agreeing to love and care for and protect and respect the other.

That is the contract I am talking about, not the marriage license.

[Gatekeeper777]

You are very welcome. I am glad i could educate you and your members here. however it was an education in gatekeeper. Differant people have differant reasons for swinging. I know of one couple who swing on saturday but attend service on sunday morning. (SHAKING HEAD) i still cant figure that one out. guilt maybe.
I have nothing to be guilty for or about as each second of life i experiance make me.....well me.
I am glad you got thte virtual tour of my brain...be afraid. be very afraid. roflmao

[Gatekeeper777]

I have several friends who are swingers but I have always been reluctant to ask them questions about swinging because I don't want them to think I am the least bit interested. I have a hard enough time keeping my friends' husbands from groping me at parties. So I appreciate you taking the time to discuss this with me.

Thank you for your patience. Your answers have been quite informative.

I find that to be very odd........ Especially when the first rule of swinging is NO means NO!
If they are not honoring your wishes of NO. Then they are showing you the greatest disrespect of all. not honoring your wishes.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

. I know of one couple who swing on saturday but attend service on sunday morning. (SHAKING HEAD) i still cant figure that one out. guilt maybe.

Blessed are those who cum in the name of the Lord?

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

I find that to be very odd........ Especially when the first rule of swinging is NO means NO!
If they are not honoring your wishes of NO. Then they are showing you the greatest disrespect of all. not honoring your wishes.

Oh these aren't swinger parties. It's usually Samhain/Yule/New Year's. I think it's cause they get wasted, and some of them assume that I swing cause I'm pagan, and cause I'm friends with swingers. Sort of a birds of a feather thing.

[Gatekeeper777]

My favorite holiday is samhain. Yule is ok i guess. lol
IMHO even if they are even a birthday party no means no. its a swingers credo.