Questions to peoeple who believe in god?

[Feebs420]

It is a fact that the Roman and Greek gods were no real and that they created the gods as an answer to that which they could not answer.

1.)What makes today gods different to any of the roman gods who we know are not real?

2.) What happens to god when all the humans on earth die?

3.) Why did the one god choose Earth as his planet were he would start a civilization which would end up destroying itself in the end. (Im not saying we will destroy ourselves, but i think its pretty inevitable.)

I've asked many people how long god has been around and they always say "God has been here forever". Then i ask them how the earth was made and they say "God made the Earth". I then ask them "Is it possible for the Earth to have been here forever?" and they say "No the earth had to have been created, there is no way for something to just be here if it was created at some point in time."

4.) Why is it then that God can be here forever and not have been created if it is impossible for something to be here without being created.

Sorry in advance if this doesnt make any sense, im baked and having one of my moments .

Feebs420 Reviewed by Feebs420 on 02-25-2007. Questions to peoeple who believe in god? It is a fact that the Roman and Greek gods were no real and that they created the gods as an answer to that which they could not answer. 1.)What makes today gods different to any of the roman gods who we know are not real? 2.) What happens to god when all the humans on earth die? 3.) Why did the one god choose Earth as his planet were he would start a civilization which would end up destroying itself in the end. (Im not saying we will destroy ourselves, but i think its pretty Rating: 5

[thcbongman]

I believe in god, but not in a traditional sense. I been raised a buddhist, so much of my beliefs are centered around that philosophy. When I talk of a god, it's not in a sense of a mythic being, but the connection of energy of life, the environment. I believe were merely an extension of god, were all one with god. I learned through spiritual psychedelic trips that god is a completely neutral state. I don't believe it to be good or evil, because all the decisions in one's life can turn in either direction. God is the energy everyone draws from, a sense of power, from within and what's around you.

1. I believe the interpretations of god by religions revolve around creating mythic figures for the human to better understand the concept. It's used as a tool to relate to the messages. Stories essentially. These are mere perceptions and images. The messages in all religions are essentially the same when it comes down to it. They all explain were all one with god in the end, but many are so focused on the traditions, and differences that everyone forgets what it means to believe in god.

2. When one dies, his interpretation of god disappears with him. I believe as long as there is life, there is god. I don't believe god is a creator, life is what creates and maintains this world.

3. I don't think there's a plausable explanation, considering we have not discovered others out there. Maybe in time, this question can be answered, but we leave it as one of life's mysteries. As long as there was life, there is and was god.

4. Belief in god comes down to one thing, faith. I think there is too little information out there to make a determination, perhaps one day we'll find out, perhaps we won't. But we as humans are here to stay as long we determined to. This is all god, we are everything. I'll end this with lyrics from a song called God by the band Apollo Sunshine, which musically explains my beliefs.

You find god, the moment you, realize you don't need to find god
you find god, the moment you, realize you don't need to find god

we exist, all of this, this is all god, we are everything
we exist, all of this, this is all god, we are everything

this is the kingdom, we are the people, so open your doors and breathe in deeply
this is the kingdom, we are the people, so open your doors and breathe in deeply
this is the kingdom, we are the people, so open your doors and breathe in deeply

[delusionsofNORMALity]

your original premise is faulty. we have no way to prove that the greek and roman gods did/do not exist. they have merely been supplanted by a new series of mythologies, so your first question is ruled out as it was based on this faulty premise.

according to christian mythology man is dependent on god, not the other way around. once man no longer exists the universe will be as it was before man and god would probably do whatever it was doing before it came up with the absurd notion of humanity.

every experiment needs a place to reside and here is as good a place as any. your third question has no meaningful answer. it's like asking "why is fire hot?", because that is what we have chosen to call the feeling of flame interacting with flesh. why were we placed here? because no matter where this experiment took place it would still be here to us.

your last question is based on the underlying reason for the existence of religion. forever is a long, long time and we have difficulty understanding such concepts as eternity. though we easily understand things that have a beginning and an end, we seem to need some other in order to grasp the concept of eternity. this other always existed so we don't have to try to understand that which is beyond our understanding. it's a case of magic taking the place of logic, but it seems to satisfy those who are willing to take that leap.

to ask for logical answers from those who believe in magic is in itself illogical, but good luck with your quest.


the preceding was written by an atheist who is violently opposed to the proliferation of religious fallacies and spiritual deceit.

[OlderDude]

Wow...that argument made little sense. Perhaps you should share. Personally I'm not a religious individual, however the basis for any religion is Faith. You can argue the details of existence and creation until you are blue in the face. Faith is the determining factor in all religion.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

...that argument made little sense....

for the moment i will take for granted that you weren't talking about my post since i gave no argument, but in case you were referring to my opinions perhaps you could explain what is confusing you.

[Polymirize]

yeah, but you did totally catch that first premise. So, I think you deserve props anyway.

[RichieRich]

It is a fact that the Roman and Greek gods were no real and that they created the gods as an answer to that which they could not answer.

1.)What makes today gods different to any of the roman gods who we know are not real?

2.) What happens to god when all the humans on earth die?

3.) Why did the one god choose Earth as his planet were he would start a civilization which would end up destroying itself in the end. (Im not saying we will destroy ourselves, but i think its pretty inevitable.)

I've asked many people how long god has been around and they always say "God has been here forever". Then i ask them how the earth was made and they say "God made the Earth". I then ask them "Is it possible for the Earth to have been here forever?" and they say "No the earth had to have been created, there is no way for something to just be here if it was created at some point in time."

4.) Why is it then that God can be here forever and not have been created if it is impossible for something to be here without being created.

Sorry in advance if this doesnt make any sense, im baked and having one of my moments .

Boy you asked alot of great questions man. That must have been some righteous weed :thumbsup:

Christians believe that God has always been. He is the source of all life and all creation. But thats a tough one to swallow I know. But even if you ask the athiest and evolution people they have issues with that one as well. If there were gases, particles and so forth in space that gathered togehter to cause the big bang, who made the gases? Who made space?
Thats why way smarter people like Einstein believed in intelligent design.
Good luck on your search man! Peace..:jointsmile:

[mrdevious]

You also bring up some good points RichieRich. Hopefully we'll have all these answers at some point, but here's my take...

Christians believe that God has always been.

Oddly though, the inverse itself is not alotted the same benefit of the doubt. I suppose, though, that god could be something that transcends energy or matter, and it is therefor matter and energy that are not alotted the same benefit of the doubt. However, energy be definitition is the catylist of all action, so I'm not sure how that would work. If you take a dip into quantum physics you'll find some interesting stuff, and undoubtedly change your view on the nature of existence and our separation of matter, energy, and "nothingness".

He is the source of all life and all creation. But thats a tough one to swallow I know.

Thankyou for acknowledging that. It seems fellows like Pascal inevitably have their logic scewed by interpreting their world to match up with their presuppositions. A big reason it's difficult to convince the atheist is because we've stepped out of that realm where all our views are coloured by a presupposition, and all our reasoning must come back to it.

But even if you ask the athiest and evolution people they have issues with that one as well. If there were gases, particles and so forth in space that gathered togehter to cause the big bang, who made the gases?

Keep in mind that the big bang is only a theory based on second-hand observations. It is not the definitive and be-all answer nor is it claimed to be, only a proposed explanation for the movement of the universe. The question though, cannot automatically go to "who" made it, when we can just as easily say "what" made it. In fact, considering that conscious thought is the product of an incredibly complex biological system designed for survival in a particular environment, how would it be logical to assume that consciousness would also arise from an entirely unrelated set of circumstances? To suggest a "who" usually suggests a consciousness, the ultimate consciousness of god. But why, in the midst of nothingness, would something like consciousness arise?

Who made space?

Who made god? I dunno. But the question of who made space, who made "somethingness", is one that has perplexed people since the beginning of time. Of course as I stated above, we are far too dependant on the notion that everything has to be the product of a "who" when there's no evidence to suggest such. Anywhoo, I'd suggest everybody read up on quantum physics, space-time, special and general relativity, and evolution. Most stuff is much harder to dismiss if you actually study and understand it.

Thats why way smarter people like Einstein believed in intelligent design.

But, you're commiting the logical fallacy of an appeal to authority. An appeal to authority is where you take someone highly accomplished in one field, and use him/her as a standard by which all other opinions are set. Einstein was a master of understanding relativity, space-time, and mathematics. He was not necessarily a master of logic, and his credentials do not point to such. You can find plenty of the smartest people to ever live who have opinions both ways, but none of them citable sources just because they display intelligence in a particular field.

[slipknotpsycho]

1.)What makes today gods different to any of the roman gods who we know are not real?

because a book says so

i believe in a higher power... but i do not believe in any religion (or ones that i know of atleast) that are present today.. i don't believe there is some being capable of setting rules, or punishment for not following them...

the whole idea of christianity to me is just ridiculous..

i believe in karma... do to others as you'd have them do to you.. and...
whatever you do eventually comes back to you... you do good deeds out of the goodness of your heart, and eventually you will be rewarded for it (that's not to say however you can do good things just expecting something good to happen, that more or less goes into greed, and greed almost always lies in darkness...) do bad to others, and you will recieve bad as well...

i just try to live a wholesome normal life for the most part...

[higher4hockey]

faith brother, you either have it or you don't. simple as that.