I'm still not sure what I did that changed it but they are looking much better now. I've given them about twice the nutes as before and they seem to be drinking and eating...I'll post a pic to for comparison but I'm almost wondering if they were just out of food considering...a few that were very dark green have gone back to a much nicer forest color and aside from a few nute burn spots the whole lot is looking much better

It's possible they were getting a ton of iron when I was doing the res flushes after I gave them too much food because I wasn't filtering it I'm not sure why this most recent one did the same thing though cause I was filtering that water but stranger things have happened ;-) I'll keep an eye on it WH...I'm using maxigrow which has the trace elements as well cause my water is at 200ppm to start I'm running it through the britta before I make changes...the ph has settled in to a very slow climb which I've been told by a few seems to be the norm

Thank you for the info on grow rates JW it's a huge help to have a reference as far as I can tell they are growing almost 1/2 an inch a day which is right in line with what you were saying....

I've got a few more things to check tonight but I'm startin to relax a bit as things have calmed down

Now I'm thinking about topping one of the plants cause it's considerably taller than the others if it slows down growth for a couple days that may be just the thing to get the others caught up and since it grows faster maybe 2 main shoots will slow it down to be with the others...I am a bit nervous about takin scissors to the tree but hopefully with some more reading I'll be ready

I think I got a day or 2 before the top will be ready for cutting I've read only having 2 nodes is best for the size of the clone, whatcha think?

Sorry bout the crappy pic again I'll get a better one if I can figure out what's wrong with my digicam I tried to take a pic when the light was on and it messed it up...the screen is all jumbled now hopefully it'll fix itself