OK, now I see what you mean. Well, yeah, that could be a tense-making situation with the pull-away, but most of us are capable enough that if we were that close, we'd just finish ourselves off! (And not let you watch, either. That would serve you right for the early exit!)

You mean Smoking Monkey's got a serious man to volunteer for the vasectomy? I'd say she has a very giving one, but I think they're wise to wait until their childbearing years are closer to being over. Vasectomies really are not scary at all. Nearly every past-35 adult man I know who's had his kids has had one, including my dad, and Dave's going to make an appointment within the next month himself. We started talking about it after he read this thread late last night and he said he felt strongly about doing that. (He's more worried about an accidental surprise pregnancy than I realized.)