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02-21-2007, 08:20 AM #11
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american history x
lol...?
Originally Posted by NextLineIsMine
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02-21-2007, 08:27 AM #12
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american history x
i love that movie, its a good movie
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02-21-2007, 09:02 AM #13
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american history x
word man. You can, at any instant, choose to change who you are. Paths are only laid at your feet as you continue to choose to walk them.
Originally Posted by Billionfold
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02-21-2007, 03:31 PM #14
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american history x
I once watched a skinhead get his head stomped on a curb, and I chuckled after as he lay there motionless. He got ass kicked after calling the wrong people the N word. It happened in a matter of seconds.
American History X is a great movie though. I'm not racist either, but that movie doesn't deal with people who are into that sort of thing. In the end, Derek leaves the lifestyle and potrays how distructive hatred and racism can be. I think it's suppose to show people, "hey, don't get into this. It's nothing but hatred" and it is. Nazi followers are filled with nothing but hate, and that can eat you up after awhile.
In my life, I don't see the reflection. My brother is now a mega religious nut, and myself, anything about religion angers me. I hate every aspect of it, so does my mother growing up in a hypocritical Catholic household filled with a drunken father who abused them to no end, but we are family, and my brother knows not to talk about it around us or he will get an earful from me.
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02-21-2007, 04:42 PM #15
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american history x
I enjoyed the film. The cinematography was great and Norton just proves why he is one of the most actors of his generation.
"I once watched a skinhead get his head stomped on a curb, and I chuckled after as he lay there motionless." - Chowder
Dude, that is pretty fucked up no matter what he said :wtf:
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02-21-2007, 09:00 PM #16
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american history x
I didn't stomp him. Some angry African American dudes did, and I just watched the show, but yes, it was fucked up. I wasn't about to get in the middle of it though.
Originally Posted by ATrain
I used to work with a guy who was into Hitler, and he overheard me saying I immigrated from Holland. He said that me and my entire family should have been shot as soon as we crossed the boarder, so if I had to chance to do the same to him as I witnessed what happened to another Nazi, I wouldn't hesistate for a second. :thumbsup:
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02-21-2007, 09:03 PM #17
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american history x
If you had no part in it that is much much better. I wouldn't get in the middle of the brawl either.
Originally Posted by Nochowderforyou
I can't believe someone said that about you coming from Holland though. Considering what that dude said I can understand your feelings towards the other guy that got beat
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02-21-2007, 09:14 PM #18
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american history x
I could never stomp anyone with my feet while they're on the ground. Not even for a reason. Stomping is hardcore stuff, and I couldn't do that. Fists, yes, but not feet.
Originally Posted by ATrain
This guy was a very angry person, very. He was consumed by racism and pure hate. It was frightening to watch sometimes him go off using harsh derogetory terms like that. He said something similair to a Jewish fellow as he did to me. He wasn't so lucky that time and got a broomstick upside the head.
To them, an immigrant is an immigrant. Kind of sad to see to tell you the truth, and after I saw American H.X, I saw that same fellow, exact same person as the character Derek. I hoped we had evolved since then, but it is still present.
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02-21-2007, 09:19 PM #19
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american history x
the way you describe the dude he's not derek... he'd more be like stacy keach (but one that actually does something) or the fat dude...
derek even as his racist self is organized and mythodical.... not just hating to hate (which is what the dude you describe sounds like)
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02-21-2007, 09:24 PM #20
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american history x
You're right. Derek changed, but this guy there is no changing.
Originally Posted by slipknotpsycho
So yeah, he'd be more like the fat guy.
Lets just say he WAS Hitler. Same haircut, same beliefs, and I even caught him ranting to himself and did the salute with his hand.
...but the weird thing is, is this guy would go tanning on the time, and he was the darkest white boy out of all of us! He looked like a carrot actually. 
There was something more wrong with him though. His brain didn't work like ours, and I think he is a bit confused as to what he is believing in.
All I know is that I never have to see him again as he's probably at the same job, picking boxes off a shelf. Plus he's a province away.
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