Hey Zandor, good to see u again. Yea, thats what i forgot to say in my 1st post, im mainly looking for quietness and then CFM, elicents are rated lower but some people say they blow just as much. Im also gonna be turning it down a lil obviously to try to make it even quieter, so if they're both pretty well the same like u say and the Elicents have the controller i'll prob go with that. Anyone else have any experience with these fans?