Oprah a god?

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

If you don't admit you have growing to do, you never reach for the light and stay stunted, while everyone around you takes what you sacrifice.

Simply brilliant.

[Breukelen advocaat]

Unless your real name is James Bowman, this means nothing to me in the context of this debate. I want to know why YOU, Breukelen, feel the way you do. Don't be upset simply because you gave a pat answer, and I asked you to explore it further with me. I merely seek to understand.

I already explained it - in the above posts. If you don't agree that Oprah's author-friends are a tad shy of brilliant, fine. If you also believe, as Oprah does, that Ruben "Hurricane" Carter was a fine upstanding citizen that was unjustly framed for all of his crimes, that's your right as well. If you think that Alice Walker* is worthy of our admiration, read about a few of her shenanigans and her mindset here: http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/in...asp?indid=2001

Like I said, I have no quarrel with Winfrey's do-gooder work for some of her causes but she, and her literary pals, are not the great intellectuals and artists that theyâ??re cracked up to be.

It's only my opinion.


*Alice Walker:
Pulitzer Prize-winning author
Longtime admirer of Fidel Castro and Mumia Abu Jamal
Thinks the key to defeating Osama bin Laden is "love"

[benagain]

I'd have more respect for her if she didn't act like she deserves so much attention. The school in africa thing was the straw that broke the camels back. The fact that she was a biatch when she wasn't invided to Tom cruises wedding turned me off to.
She's not a bad woman, but if she would flow some of that money domesticly and didn't make a big deal about it, then we'd be square.

Oh and that school she build is a POS. It's like an LA resort with spas and whotnot. I've heard experts say that she could have built a school to teach hundreds of more kids than the one she built.

All in all, not a saint, more of a martha stewart type. Just a bit nicer than martha.

[Dave Byrd]

I read a thing in the news paper the other day that Kitty Kelley, thatwicked biographer who's done books on Jackie Kennedy, Sinatra, Elizabeth Taylor, the British Royals, and Nancy Reagan, is working on a book about Oprah now. I'm surprised the publishing world would let that happen, as influential as Her Royal Wealthiness (my wife's term) is in the book industry. An unauthorized biography of Miss O ought to be a doozy.

[ReUp]

I don't watch Oprah's Show but I think she's a hotty :jointsmile:

[Oneironaut]

My mother is absolutely convinced that Oprah Winfrey is the Antichrist.

[Skink]

Well it used to be the most well known name across the globe was Mohamad Ali,,,I bet it's Oprah now,,,LOLz...

[mafyew]

I kind of get the sense that some people who might have, or think they might have, an above average intelligence tend to use it in all the wrong ways.

Why argue against Oprah? Why do you really hate her?

All the arguments I've read so far just seem to be unsatisfying.


I'd have to say I'm pretty neutral on the subject. Regardless if the school she built turned out to be garbage (I don't know if it did or not), she still put out an attempt. It still cost money. The effort itself seems to be enough to justify it.

The way this world is going, if a person changes the life of another, just one other, for the better, that alone is a positive achievement. Oprah, i dare to say, has changed the lives of millions.

[Chronic Chrissy]

I tend to notice that this discussion is taking place mainly amoung americans. It seems like she isn't the global icon that we are made to believe she is. As for her school I agree that schools in Africa are a better way o spend money because
a) everyone there dreams of an education they want to learn and value school higher than riches
b) In the US students are dropping out of school and treating it as if it has no value besides socialization. It is more a gathering place to compete. Who has more friends, money, freedom, who's the toughest, meanest, who has the most backup, who has the best grades and extra curricular activities to get into a better school. No one is there to learn anymore, no one chooses to learn anymore.
c) so what if she builds a nice school with a few extras that p[eople there don't need? Our school systems have lots of thing they don't need. Please tell me what a grade 1 student needs a brand new computer to research polarbears on when they can just pick up a book? Wih the price of all the computers we pump into our schools to solve the problem schools can employ more teachers and tutors, buy more text books, expand our schools and create real safe play/relaxing areas, or even hire security to keep our kids from attacking eachother and provide a safe place to learn.
d) we have private schools in poor areas or town where we think no one can afford them but you'll be amazed how many families will sacrifice every extra cent to send their kids and others recieve scholarships thus oppertunities they would other wise not have.
e) instead of having te rest of the world try to solve a problem, why not provide them with the education to better themselves and their culture from the inside using people that are themselves affected. "teach them to fish" in otherwards instead of asking the world to fish for them.

I could go on and on about the school system and attitudes towards hem in our culture, while we are a little different our schools systems run on the same concepts, and while our schools have improvements to make it's truely the people and attitudes that are fucked up.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

I already explained it - in the above posts. If you don't agree that Oprah's author-friends are a tad shy of brilliant, fine. If you also believe, as Oprah does, that Ruben "Hurricane" Carter was a fine upstanding citizen that was unjustly framed for all of his crimes, that's your right as well. If you think that Alice Walker* is worthy of our admiration, read about a few of her shenanigans and her mindset here: http://www.discoverthenetwork.org/in...asp?indid=2001

Like I said, I have no quarrel with Winfrey's do-gooder work for some of her causes but she, and her literary pals, are not the great intellectuals and artists that theyâ??re cracked up to be.

It's only my opinion.



*Alice Walker:
Pulitzer Prize-winning author
Longtime admirer of Fidel Castro and Mumia Abu Jamal
Thinks the key to defeating Osama bin Laden is "love"

Based on the links you've provided, it would appear that your opposition is largely political, having little to do with the author's body of work, and everything to do with what you perceive to be her moral (read: political) failings.