What "they" don't want you to know....

[SwirlyMass]

I don't see what the problem is, im trying to spread information that is almost impossible to find (go ahead and try to find out ALL the emissions of ethanol on google or something, its hard if not impossible).

So by making this info available to more people I AM (trying to) do(ing) something you see?

Oh well my brain is tired of typing. It's had too much exercise today. I hope this thread stays peaceful though. But i for one would be much more at ease knowing that we aren't pushing CO2 levels to what they were at around the last ice age. (Think about the movie "day after tomorrow" the thing is, you aren't gonna be able to survive by burning books, or anything, you either move to the equator or in less than a week you will have no fuel to keep you warm and will end up as a nice pop-cicle for a polar bear. assuming it happens as fast as in the movie, way unlikely but if it happens slower it could be worse because living conditions would suck, the poor would die and the rich would use all their resources to stay alive, i mean what happens to heating oil when suddenly everyone above hawaii's latitude needs it to stay alive at night)



DAMNIT I CAN'T STOP!

To me these are just the most important issues of today, which is yet another reason why im an unhappy person, because the only thing politicians are worried about is which issues to focus on to get the most votes. most recently illegal immigration.....gimme a break we're the richest nation in the world, its just an inherent problem not a damn political corner stone.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

Don't rain on my parade because a few of you are bitter. You want change, then do something about it!

Part of "doing something about it" is the dissemination of information. If people aren't told about things like this, they lose the power to make informed decisions, and thus the power to tailor their actions to positively influence things.

[mfqr]

I'm sorry you're bitter, but you decide how to make your life happy. There are already too many angry folks in this world who complain and do nothing about it, so no, I won't sink to that level.

I already do my part in not driving a car, not consuming alcohol or tobacco, and not littering. I care for this world, but bitching about it won't do anything.

Don't rain on my parade because a few of you are bitter. You want change, then do something about it!

You are completely right, but so is Swirly. You both are right, because you both have opinions. There is no reason to argue over this... none whatsoever. This goes out to everyone. He posted a rant about fuel, we got the point. Okay LOLOL?? And my opinion is that we should go with hydrogen fuel. Ethanol is bullshit y0 4nd w3 need to keep it gangsta fo real. And poisoning it so that people can't consume it... LOL! So if some poor ass motherfucker does actually consume it, he'll be dead. All that for the stupid alcohol industry. Some kid is going to hear about how you can drink the ethanol fuel, and is going to drink it and die! Wouldn't it be better if he got drunk? Unless of course if he was the one driving. But usually people don't need to go that far to the gas station (there's one every few blocks). LAME.

But anyways, l8r.

[SwirlyMass]

Isn't the main oil source naturally created from the earth? If so, we will never run out, but we will destroy this word with pollution in no time.

What is it we can do about this? How do we as the public people speak to those in charge? Answer me that, and I'll be glad to help. When it comes to world problems, I seriously don't know what to do, but I know ranting and raving about it only gets people angry, so we need to find a way to get our voices heard.

Writing letters, sending e-mails, what?

Well, crude oil is basically fossilized plant matter i think (im only unsure about the fossilized part, if not then its at least REALLY REALLY OLD plant matter)

so yeah earth produces plenty of oil, over a few million years.

But think about this. The invention of combustion engines only dates back to around 1875-1900. So in less than 150 years we have used or are using most of the available oil reserves on our planet, i don't think people are gonna wait another 40 million years for those reserves to fill themselves up again

[SuperTorch]

anyways. ethanol is not the savior it claims to be, what if everyone used it? we would all be retards because our atmosphere would be polluted with a horrible neurotoxin. think about the worst headache you've ever had. now picture getting punched in the face while having this headache, now imagine feeling like that 24/7.



I hope i didn't spoil anyones day...:hippy: :hippy:

Wel brazil has been pushing it for a few decades and they are now totally free of oil, they control their own energy supply. I personally beleave its a killer product. It's one of the only true oil competetors, in that there is no tie-ins whatsoever to how they are made. Farmers in America deserve a new cash crop and here it is. Imagine how they would rebound if it take off and E85 is what sells and not forein oil. The day that we can drive our cars with the freedom to choose at he pump who gets our money is the day you'll see gas at 49 cents a gallon, the middle east has made their whole economys around screwing Americans with fake proped up prices and shortages. We'll see how short they are when Americans start to vote in big numbers to give the farmer of the USA their $20 at the pump. BRAZIL has proven it, simple as that, they don't IMPORT any oil they export E85 and Oil because with E85 there at the pump the oil use has droped by 80% and they have more than enough fuel to sustatain themselves. They had the BALLS and THEY Proved it out to be fact, they got it done and the sooner there are E85 pumps at every station in America the sooner the middle east can get their heads right and quit living on the american dollars. They are capitalist to the highest degree, once there is real competetion you'll see how supply and demand works as in another REAL COMPETETOR at the pump = 49 cents a gallon if not less. All you need is 2 different entities competing and they will redesign and redesign till its all rock bottom prices. How much do you think Windows Vista would cost if there was a REAL competitor that also held 50% of the desktops, I'll tell you how much $39.95 at most. I hope Google finds a way to make it all internet based.

[Nochowderforyou]

You have a good point, a very good point.

I know hemp and wind power would be amazing alternatives, but changing over requires mass amounts of money, and lost money for the rich bastards.

This all puts my head in a spin to be honest. You sometimes feel like your hands are tied against all of it. I wish I could start growing hemp and set up windmills to power my own home, or even solar power, but we are being held back in doing so.

Like I said, it all hurts my head and I need a toke, so I hope this thread doesn't turn nasty.

I wasn't trying to offensive to anyone. If I did, I apologize, but anything I can do to help, let me know and I will give my say.

[Skink]

Ahahahahahahaha... Swiry is my cats name...

[JaggedEdge]

disregard.

[Skink]

until we can find a cure for greed we are doomed...

[Frivolous248]

I'm sorry you're bitter, but you decide how to make your life happy. There are already too many angry folks in this world who complain and do nothing about it, so no, I won't sink to that level.

I already do my part in not driving a car, not consuming alcohol or tobacco, and not littering. I care for this world, but bitching about it won't do anything.

Don't rain on my parade because a few of you are bitter. You want change, then do something about it!

Yo', stop sayin' no one is doing anything. Who said I'm not doing my part? For all you know I could be mad involved in changing the world.

I think if more people knew the truths of the world though, then more people'd be pissed off.

Ignorance is bliss, thats a saying for a reason.