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    #21
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    have you got a soul?

    Quote Originally Posted by Billionfold
    I think of everything as a whole.

    We're Earth.
    Same. We are the universe, life, etc...

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    #22
    Senior Member

    have you got a soul?

    Quote Originally Posted by Demeter
    Just because you are a materialist, doesn't mean you have the final answer on the soul.
    I don't claim to have the "final answer" on the soul any more than I claim to have the final answer about unicorns. Yes, it is theoretically possible that souls or unicorns might exist, but the soul hypothesis and the unicorn hypothesis have failed so many attempts at validation that we can safely consider such theories false unless some kind of extraordinary evidence comes through that everybody somehow missed before.

    It is one of a few viable theories, but it is hubris to claim to have the final answer to something like that. We must always remember that as soon as we say we Know something, we are closed to learning more.
    There are things science has yet to explain,
    Just because science hasn't explained everything there is to know doesn't mean that science is unreliable. It does not mean that it is impossible to know anything scientifically, or that there is nothing we can learn from science. Science is the best way to learn about our universe, and it is important to remember that it is a process of learning. We haven't perfected our knowledge yet, but we are confident that as the years pass we are approaching the truth ever more closely.

    Just because you can't disprove something does not mean that it is "hubris" not to take seriously the idea that it might exist. When a hypothesis is proposed, and it fails every attempt at validation, and there is no reliable evidence at all in favor of it, and what it does can easily be explained by mechanisms that we already understand, then there is no basis for the hypothesis and it deserves to be rejected. It is up to the person proposing the hypothesis to show evidence. It is not up to rational-minded people to show evidence conclusively disproving every crazy idea anybody can come up with; that's impossible.

    We must be especially wary of hypotheses, like the soul hypothesis, where belief in the hypothesis is very emotionally charged. Few people believe in souls for objective, rational reasons. They believe in souls for emotional reasons. They fear the idea that their personalities might not survive death; they desperately hope that their deceased loved ones are alive in some respect; they take joy in the delusion that they have an antenna by which they can pick up signals from the all-powerful creator of the universe.

    It's wishful thinking, really. I know how nice it can feel to believe in an idea that's comforting even though there's really no logical reason to believe that it's true. I can understand your fear of the idea that souls might not exist. It can seem like a really threatening concept to the worldview that you've grown to love. I went through the same thing when I started to doubt. But it's the truth, souls and gods and things just don't exist, and I can't force myself to ignore the truth for the sake of emotional comfort. My brain won't work that way. For me, intellectual honesty trumps wishful thinking.

    If anyone is to be accused of "hubris", it's these soul-believers who aren't willing to present any evidence, yet think their hypothesis should be given special treatment and that it shouldn't be subject to the same standards of evidence that we subject other hypotheses to in determining the truth about the universe.
    and there are many different views of soul. Yours is that our personalities would be intact. But soul does not necessarily retain "personality" - with the death of the body it could reconnect (as energy) with the Oversoul. It could also reincarnate as energy from the Oversoul.
    Who knows? Neither one of us
    Reincarnation does not happen. There is no afterlife. There are no souls. It is just ludicrous to say that the patterns of the neurons in my brain somehow outlive my death. It's like saying that all the intricate details of my intestinal lining somehow outlive my death. It just doesn't make any sense, but I really can understand the emotional reasons one might want to ignore the huge gaping logical flaws in the soul hypothesis.

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    #23
    Senior Member

    have you got a soul?

    P.S. I really don't get what you mean by a "soul" where the personality is not left intact. In what sense is something "my" soul if it doesn't contain anything of me in it? And just what the hell is a soul if it's not a non-physical embodiment of my personality? Care to define the term for me?

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    #24
    Senior Member

    have you got a soul?

    i believe that there is only one soul we all have it , beacuse were are all connected through god and other crazy shit like that

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    #25
    Senior Member

    have you got a soul?

    i dont have a soul. most people wouldnt think i do either im sure

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    #26
    Senior Member

    have you got a soul?

    Quote Originally Posted by pwnydanzasmokesdank
    i dont have a soul. most people wouldnt think i do either im sure
    You don't have to be righteous to have a soul. You are a living soul. When your soul dies, your spirit lives on.

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    #27
    Member

    have you got a soul?

    this is some heavy shit. i like how we got people that are all scientific say nooo way theres no soul. Once you die your done game over. Or others like Mr. Devious arguing that there is more to it. Well anyways soul or not this made really think life is very precious and maybe we shouldnt be looking for answers that we can not answer but instead live our lives to the fullest. good shit to read while blazed outta your mind i know i liked it haha.

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