Al gores movie....continued

[JackdaWack]

I can understand there concern, and well there main purpose is in case of an global flooding, to have take the measures neccessary to maintain the U.S. control and government. The pentagon should be taking action now, becuase well they ussually wait until its too late, these arent neccisarily GlobalWarming concerns as in case of any sudden flood the U.S. can remain to hold its control. For them to concider the possibilities of global warming only they know its not going to have a dissasterous effect for atleast another 100 years, and it gives them an excuse to build all the ships they want. This is just another label for globalwarming and things for people to hide behind becuase they have no evidence of GW, but i can see benificial preperation on the matter becuase this is something that could happen just from freak nature.

[Psycho4Bud]

Czech president Vaclav Klaus, in Czech daily Hospodarske Noviny, on the myth of man-made global warming

QUESTION: The Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has released its report and you say that global warming is a myth. How did you get this idea, Mr President?

Klaus: It's not my idea. Global warming is a myth and every serious person and scientist says so. It is not fair to refer to the UN panel. IPCC is not a scientific institution: it's a political body, a sort of non-government organisation of green flavour. It's neither a forum of neutral scientists nor a balanced group of scientists. These people are politicised scientists who arrive there with a one-sided opinion and a one-sided assignment.
Also, it's an undignified slapstick that people don't wait for the full report in May2007 but instead respond, in such a serious way, to the summary for policymakers where all the "buts" are scratched, removed and replaced with oversimplified theses. This is clearly such an incredible failure of so many people, from journalists to politicians ...

Question: Don't you believe that we're ruining our planet?

Klaus: I will pretend that I haven't heard you. Perhaps only Mr Al Gore may be saying something along these lines: a sane person can't. I don't see any ruining of the planet, I have never seen it, and I don't think that a reasonable and serious person could say such a thing ... We know that there exists a huge correlation between the care we give to the environment on one side and the wealth and technological prowess on the other side. It's clear that the poorer the society is, the more brutally it behaves with respect to nature, and vice versa. It's also true that there exist social systems that are damaging nature -- by eliminating private ownership and similar things -- much more than the freer societies. These tendencies become important in the long run. They unambiguously imply that on February 8, 2007, nature is protected incomparably more than on February 8 10 years ago or 50 years ago or 100 years ago.
Cut & paste: Climate panel a political body without any scientific basis | Opinion | The Australian

[foxysox]

Czech president Vaclav Klaus, in Czech daily Hospodarske Noviny, on the myth of man-made global warming:
Klaus: "It's not my idea. Global warming is a myth and every serious person and scientist says so."

Hmmm... if every scientist agreed, I think we might not be having this debate at all!

Oh, and the caveat of 'serious' scientists and people... well, that's just a politician being... well... a politician!

[medicinal]

Heat age????? Show me anywhere in the earths Geological record where there was ever ONE heat age in the earths 4 billion year existance.
It's only a coincidance that all the green house gasses are making the planet get warmer.
Give me a break.
When i was a kid(of 14) i used to play in snow up to my ass, now i am 39 and have snow up to my big toe. Warming? I would say so.
90% or better of the earths climatologist now say that global warming is real, I will beilieve them and not a GOVERNMENTS official line because they have big oil intrests at heart.
When your in Wal-mart looking for the SPF 500 so you wont get cooked while out joy riding to get baked, dont say i didnt warn ya.

Well I'm a believer of Man induced global warming, just like to tell this poster that in Buffalo they have 12+ feet of snow and another storm on the way. I think that would sufficiently cover your big toe,~LOL~.

[JackdaWack]

I know! there up to there ass in snow, they probably want the world to warm up alittle.. ha. I dunno guys, im still hearing people say they belive in global warming yet have no explinations why they do.... im open ears guys. We all should be. I have looked and the more i look for information cocerning global warming it just brings me to the conclusions that people have nothing to do, and think of reasonable yet inconclusive information concerning global warming, we all know we dump shit into our plantets atmosphere and earth, however to exactly what extent if any is it effecting the planet. Politicians make up alot of bull crap as we all know, and if people are beliving then there winning.

[Gatekeeper777]

So you take one event thats localized and use that to say look, its all BS. well climatic weather changes and changing weather paterns are the direct cause of a planet trying to balance it all out. I suppose that one day when you raise your shield on your space suit to kiss your grand children goodbye as they leave your house you will then realize its real.
But if your right and I am wrong, then are We not GUILTY OF SHOWING no RESTRAINT? Its not broke so lets not worry about it till it becomes a major problem. 9 out of 10 dentists survey say crest fights cavities. but most people wont switch till they get a cavity, but by then its to late the damage is done. Should we wait till the seas have boiled away, or investigate and do something NOW?

[JackdaWack]

So you take one event thats localized and use that to say look, its all BS. well climatic weather changes and changing weather paterns are the direct cause of a planet trying to balance it all out. I suppose that one day when you raise your shield on your space suit to kiss your grand children goodbye as they leave your house you will then realize its real.
But if your right and I am wrong, then are We not GUILTY OF SHOWING no RESTRAINT? Its not broke so lets not worry about it till it becomes a major problem. 9 out of 10 dentists survey say crest fights cavities. but most people wont switch till they get a cavity, but by then its to late the damage is done. Should we wait till the seas have boiled away, or investigate and do something NOW?

This is the attitude that blurrs this situation, no one said to forget it or not worry about it, but dont claim shit you dont have proof of. Read the thread entirely and understand mine as others points of veiws. No one said to stop the theory of Global warming, or to hell with the earth, we should make the environmetn as best we can, and take what we know not what we dont, and use that to better our situation, if our situatuion even has a problem. Who knows? this wasnt a thread on the dissaproval of global warming but just an outlook on the theory.

[Delta9 UK]

I think this is a very ignorant comment, kinda like jump on the band wagon. Just becuase people "think" it exist's doesnt mean would should all just drop to the dicoverer, If we took theory and applied stratagy we would be sorry ass MFer's. If you really want to prove global warming exists, well lets get some facts, and dont just look into what one person says becuase thats not the argument, i would suggest looking at the other side before comming to a conclusion. The Ice caps of the world could be melting from a number of diferent reasons and no scientist can say This Is why there is global warming, so dont bullshit around and say it doesnt exist only in the minds who feel that way, becuase i honestly belive it exists only in the minds of ppl who want it to. If there is no factual evidence substantial to other facts, then what are we to believe. To be honest when some one contributes a theory like population control, i find that more appealing. The us has a fertility rate of 1.5-2 but our population keeeps growing, talk about immigration control. I dunno guys i mean for people who strongly believe in Global Warming, non of u guys have put up a valid argument on its existence, u have suggested areas of intreast but thats not enough.


Al gore.. Maybe it is a politicians battle becuase it could be a world wide issue
but i dont think it is something we should vote him in office for. Environmental standards are good i agree, but i have never liked the guy and hope he is never one day president. Just like we have a pentagon, we most likely have a part of the gov who studies the environment, It is very important we watch for mothernature, look at new orleans, under water and that was just a hurrican.

Well I disagree 100% and stick with my comment.

Al Gore isn't running for office btw, he tried that once before... like I said you don't like the idea of it - like your government doesn't like the idea of it.

I live in the UK and we have a different attitude towards it.

[Delta9 UK]

Oh...

Read this http://www.ipcc.ch/SPM2feb07.pdf

I can't even believe some people are still debating this??

[JackdaWack]

well no one has yet to give me a clear cut answer, I read it, it even states that there is a large uncertainty in most of there findings.

Hey, im not here to fight wether or not its real, i just think its abselutly rediculous ppl talk about how it is such a big deal when there isnt any evidence, if it were so cut and clear, global warming, we would know why, and we dont.

My point is simply people take such sides when they know little or nothing on the matter, the people studying it dont even know that much about it.

Please dont think im here to say it doesnt exist, i already stated it very well could. My basic veiws go both ways, u cant rule out one becuase your gut says so.

Before we make it so popularized i believe we need to have some ground of findings regarding the matter. Other then that is people talking out of there asses what they "think".