Al gores movie....continued

[JackdaWack]

Ok guys i really want to talk about this, latewood didnt agree with my comments and some others didnt agree with gk. but non the less i still belive that the only reason Al gore put this movie together was to gain votes. Which makes his points pretty unstable.

Now, we all know that the world is in some way warming, but it has been for the past millions of years, we had an ice age whats to stop an heat age, Really? There has been no factual evidence that global warming is here. However i do belive in a better non poluted world. China has the worst pulution atleast the us demands filters on all factoy stacks.

we could be contributing to globalwarming, i will never say that it is not possible, but we would have some evidence if it were true. think of how many people do research on this and find nothing, or something close to nothing. CFC's have been further outlawed along with many A/c mechanics.

If some one told me hey this is why global warming is true,(hard evidence) i would say global warming is an issue. We need to get our heads out of our asses stop thinking about how to prove GW, and work to find better environmental standards.

I also dont belive it should be a political issue, its an environmental issue, leave it to the government and were sure to see some one fuck it up.

JackdaWack Reviewed by JackdaWack on 02-10-2007. Al gores movie....continued Ok guys i really want to talk about this, latewood didnt agree with my comments and some others didnt agree with gk. but non the less i still belive that the only reason Al gore put this movie together was to gain votes. Which makes his points pretty unstable. Now, we all know that the world is in some way warming, but it has been for the past millions of years, we had an ice age whats to stop an heat age, Really? There has been no factual evidence that global warming is here. However i do Rating: 5

[the yeag]

I do not think you understood the movie. If you did you would not have wrote the above statement.

[Gatekeeper777]

Heat age????? Show me anywhere in the earths Geological record where there was ever ONE heat age in the earths 4 billion year existance.
It's only a coincidance that all the green house gasses are making the planet get warmer.
Give me a break.
When i was a kid(of 14) i used to play in snow up to my ass, now i am 39 and have snow up to my big toe. Warming? I would say so.
90% or better of the earths climatologist now say that global warming is real, I will beilieve them and not a GOVERNMENTS official line because they have big oil intrests at heart.
When your in Wal-mart looking for the SPF 500 so you wont get cooked while out joy riding to get baked, dont say i didnt warn ya.

[birdgirl73]

That things about Al Gore putting the movie together only for votes? If you knew anything at all about Al Gore, you'd know that he's been an environmentalist and teacher for decades. He put the presentation that became the move together because it's the sort of thing he's always done. And if anything, he's very well aware that there was a distinct possibility that, had he helped produce the movie during a political race (which he didn't, by the way), he'd have stood to lose votes rather than win them.

Time to educate yourself a bit more JackdaW. What Gatekeeper said above is very true. You don't have to listen to politicians. Listen to the concrete facts from climatologists and environmental scientists. The ones who measure temperatures and core ice samples on the polar caps. The ones who monitor the greenhouse gasses, the ever-growing holes in our ozone layer, global temperature trends, and, yes, polar bear habitats. The ones who convened around the world at the behest of the UN within this last six months and made their report public within the last six weeks. There's no longer any argument on the topic of global warming or, if you prefer the term, climate change. Even the most in-denial fossil-fuel-connected politicians now see this, too. The facts do exist. And that most recent UN report, sadly, said that even by acting now and enacting tough legislation and stringent environmental standards around the world, we're not really going to be able to undo the destructive environmental cycle that's already in motion. We may be able to make some improvements and keep the future of this century from being so bleak. But we're already too late to stop it entirely or reverse the current damage.

If it's an environmental issue, by the way, that means it's automatically a political issue, too. Environmentalists and scientists can make the recommendations for more stringent environmental standards. But someone has to put them into action. That's where legislators/politicians come in.

[Gatekeeper777]

What I find ODD is most of the world accepts this as fact,except for a few 1 month ago there was a story on cnn about an ice sheet the size of rhode island that broke off the ice shelf. it got about 45 seconds of air time. About 3 months ago the scientists said that if polar ice keeps dissapearing at the rate it is today there will be NO MORE polar bears in 50 years. They will be extinct. It got 30 seconds of air time. HOW SAD. Anna Nicole Smith has a bastard child and no one knows who the cum donor is and its national news for 4 days. Its no wonder we americans are misinformed. The government rules the media.
We may have freedomm of speach and freedom of press this is true. but the government (FCC) hold alot of broadcast licences. "talk more about this and less about that or else !"
We are talking about something that has the potential to erase ALL life on earth in less then 100 years. i think it should be looked at it objectively and NOT with a government stance. Unless you think that weed is a dangerous drug.

[the yeag]

Jake you are wrong..i doubt you watched the movie. i used to believe in that theory to. it was explained in the movie yes we have had cycles during our time on the planet, but not like we are having today. i know we have had several small ice ages in our time on the planet but what we are facing is nothing like we have ever seen and sadly unless about 50 million people die overnight we are all doomed. i will be heading inland. Denver should be a wonderful island Paradise

[Psycho4Bud]

In the 2004 eco-disaster film The Day After Tomorrow, Europe and North America are gripped by a deep freeze after global warming halts the circulation of a North Atlantic ocean current. The film is pure Hollywood hyperbole.

But some scientists say the current is vulnerable to rising temperatures.

Acting like a conveyor belt, the current transports warm, surface waters toward the Poles and cold, deep waters toward the Equator.

In the Atlantic Ocean, these warm surface waters push northward, releasing heat into the atmosphere and becoming cooler and denser. As they do, the waters sink and flow southward in the deep ocean.

"The Atlantic circulation moves heat toward the Arctic, and this helps moderate wintertime temperatures in the high-latitude Northern Hemisphere," said Ruth Curry, a physical oceanography research specialist at the Woods Hole Oceanographic Institution on Cape Cod, Massachusetts.
Global Warming May Alter Atlantic Currents, Study Says

I watched a special regarding this. They said that due to the fresh water being dumped into the Atlantic Ocean the effects would actually drive us into another ice age.

I would imagine that they all have their own theories.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Gatekeeper777]

which STILL could put an end to mankind especially if the planet became one big snowball from pole to pole.
Its happened before too ,but long before man.

[Zimzum]

Maybe man was around then and suffered an identical fate. Evolution, rinse and repeat with the bacteria frozen at the bottom of the ice. Natures way of reformatting the hard drive.

[Psycho4Bud]

Just how much of the "Greenhouse Effect" is caused by human activity?

It is about 0.28%, if water vapor is taken into account-- about 5.53%, if not.

This point is so crucial to the debate over global warming that how water vapor is or isn't factored into an analysis of Earth's greenhouse gases makes the difference between describing a significant human contribution to the greenhouse effect, or a negligible one.

Water vapor constitutes Earth's most significant greenhouse gas, accounting for about 95% of Earth's greenhouse effect (4). Interestingly, many "facts and figures' regarding global warming completely ignore the powerful effects of water vapor in the greenhouse system, carelessly (perhaps, deliberately) overstating human impacts as much as 20-fold.

Water vapor is 99.999% of natural origin. Other atmospheric greenhouse gases, carbon dioxide (CO2), methane (CH4), nitrous oxide (N2O), and miscellaneous other gases (CFC's, etc.), are also mostly of natural origin (except for the latter, which is mostly anthropogenic).

Human activites contribute slightly to greenhouse gas concentrations through farming, manufacturing, power generation, and transportation. However, these emissions are so dwarfed in comparison to emissions from natural sources we can do nothing about, that even the most costly efforts to limit human emissions would have a very small-- perhaps undetectable-- effect on global climate.
Global Warming: A closer look at the numbers