goin to see barack obama today...

[delusionsofNORMALity]

...even those the government believes they have taken away from me.

the only problem you have with my statement is that you know i'm right. though you would like to believe that the voting public is intelligent and well-informed, the reality of the situation is just the opposite. just look at w's re-election and you can see how america voted with its anger and its fear instead of following an intelligent course. for every voter who follows the facts there are ten who either blindly stumble along in their party's wake or vote for whoever has the nicest hair. i didn't opt out of the american political scene, i opted out of the illusion that the choices we are given are the only choices available. i opted out of an institution so polarized that it is no longer capable of performing its most basic functions.
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[BlueCat]

That is fine Del, if you want to opt out..it is your right to do so and I have no problem with that. I do have a problem with anyone that does not participate in their country's legislative policy speaking out against ANY candidate. If you don't participate you should NOT participate at all. You have chosen not to be involved in the democracy of your country. So sadly by not voting you have made your opinion worthless as far as the democratic functionality.

Yes the country voted out of fear for George Bush and I do agree that democracy in this country came dangerously close to failure but now the pendulum is swinging the other way. Enough people are worried.

The people of Moveon.org worked really hard to change the way people in this country involve in politics. They have become the largest grassroots political group in the country and by harnessing the power of the internet they were able to pull people together and got the voters motivated. I made 400 calls myself and 2 public speeches and many of my friends became involved for the 1st time in their lives.

Trust me I am the first person NOT to trust government. I believe the Salvadorian option was used in Iraq so that the country could be divided and their oil taken from them. I am sure of it. So I want to see the leaders responsible brought to justice. This can't happen by doing nothing.

Change will only come about when people get angry enough and care enough to participate.

I really hope you will change your mind and take part we really do need you.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

.... I do have a problem with anyone that does not participate in their country's legislative policy speaking out against ANY candidate. If you don't participate you should NOT participate at all. You have chosen not to be involved in the democracy of your country. So sadly by not voting you have made your opinion worthless as far as the democratic functionality....

perhaps you misconstrued my earlier post. obama's background and political tilt are not what i was criticizing, but the tendency of the masses to make important decisions based on purely cosmetic reasoning.

as for worthless opinions:
there ain't no such animal. even the most brain-dead, narrow-minded, self-important simpleton may have some bit of wisdom to impart. opinions are merely information given from a particular point of view and, as such, they are all are worthy of being heard. if you choose to ignore the opinions of those you deem unworthy of your attention you may lose the opportunity to gain some potentially valuable insight that your narrow view of the world has left you blind to.


oh, and you can call me norm.

[NewbiePacker]

Obama= no shot nest year

[suhl]

you=no shot in the 2nd grade spelling bee

[Bong30]

Hussien....is so liberal.... he makes Hillary seam conservative..... Damn thats hard to do.

Here is Obamas church.......replace the word Black, with the word white...and replace the (D) with an (R), and the media would be all over him.

Meaning if there was a white republican going to a PRO white church...he would be hung out to dry.....

Obama has No chance.....

Trinity United Church of Christ

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee chaired by Vallmer Jordan in 1981. We believe in the following 12 precepts and covenantal statements. These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They must reflect on the following concepts:

Commitment to God
Commitment to the Black Community
Commitment to the Black Family
Dedication to the Pursuit of Education
Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence
Adherence to the Black Work Ethic
Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect
Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness"
Pledge to make the fruits of all developing and acquired skills available to the Black Community
Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions
Pledge allegiance to all Black leadership who espouse and embrace the Black Value System
Personal commitment to embracement of the Black Value System.


Racism is racism.........


spin it guys.....

what about his voting record on Illegal imagration?

after you flame me, make a point......

Maybe he is a racist piece of shit......??????

[Bong30]

I am not worried about Obama's name. Anyone that is so lame as to have a problem with the sound of his name is too damn stupid to take the time to vote!

I know about his name, His short voting record, his voting record on illegal imaragtion, I know his madrasa schooling, and I VOTE

And honestly it is the common law of politics if you have detached yourself from the political system of your country you lose the right to bitch. If you don't vote don't bitch it is really that simple.

I bitch and Vote

As for Bong...I really feel sorry for you dear. You must be a really sad person. If I had not read earlier posts about your family I would think you were still in high school.

I dont need your pitty...save it for your friend

You have nothing you can really say about Obama so you call him a stupid name like you are still in your high school lunchroom. I wonder if you weren't one of those name calling bullies at school as well?
Really Bong if you want to play with the grown ups your input with have to be a little more than "piece of shit"

Well i posted his voting record on illegal imagration.....but you dont say shit about it?.. you pick and choose what you like to read through those rosy lib glasses....

You are working to keep this country divided. It is people like you that will destroy our country. We have been greatly divided and we can't heal if we don't come together. Bush has managed to make this nation look like a paper tiger to the rest of the world and as a result we will be challenge in the future.

WRONG IT LIBS THAT CUFF US SO THE WE CANT WIN THE WAR THAT MAKE US LOOK LIKE A PAPER TIGER.....UNDER CLINTON WE WERE ATTACKED ALL THE TIME.....THAT IS A PAPER TIGER...

NOW WE ARE A DRAGON WITH TEETH...

We have got to get our military back home where they belong and begin to pull this country together to protect what we have here not the oil fields that belong to another country.

WONG AGAIN....We need to win the war against radical Islam, then bring them home....

Please if you can't say anything constructive to bring this nation together then don't say anything.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^this is the biggest problem of the left^^^^^^

Blue Cat wants me to get in line with Lib thinking, and If I dont, DONT SAY ANY THING......

THIS IS ONE OF THE PARTS OF LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISOREDR.....Say what i want to hear about.....War, Global warming, and if you dont agree with me....DONT SAY ANYTHING......fuck off bitch

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


We have to pull it together why can't you see that divided we fall?

you are right for once...we have to pull together aginst common enemys, like radical islam......(you think Bush is the enemy, cause you hate America)

Just stop. It is very un American to continue your fight to keep this country divided. If you really love your country you will knock it off.


She is calling me UN American.....you should know, you wrote the book.

get some teach......

[PatrickHenry]

Racism is racism.........


spin it guys.....

what about his voting record on Illegal imagration?

after you flame me, make a point......

Maybe he is a racist piece of shit......??????

HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHA

Dude, you're seriously crazy! Blacks have been oppressed and you want to play that card?. There are Chinese churches, Polish churches, Mexican churches, Assyrian churches, Lebanese churches, and more... all in America. The thing about Blacks is there was this little thing called slavery where Blacks were torn from their homeland. Wouldn't it be quite difficult to join the church of Ghana if you don't if that's where you're from? Blacks unite together to celebrate and discuss a common life experience. Quit drinking the Hater-ade!

[Bong30]

I understand Slavery was bad......DUhhh

What I dont understand is La Raza, and that church. Racsim is Racism.....

look at this purpose statement at a church in My neighborhood......( i dont go to it BTW)

FAITH :: ARVADA, COLORADO

Our Purpose

We are a family of faith with a single purpose; we want to honor God. The purpose of Faith Bible Chapel is to honor God by:
-- Acknowledging the Holy Spirit in all we do --
We value prayer and continually ask God to lead us in our planning. He shows us the needs of people, the opportunities for service to Him and gives us specific ideas to keep our church active and fresh. It is His church and we want Him to shepherd us all.

-- Bringing people to Jesus and to membership in His family --
We have been blessed by God. God loves us and will give us His life! We work to share the good news with our next door neighbors and with people around the world. We want to be a blessing to others and to help people find a relationship with Him for themselves.

-- Celebrating His presence through worship --
It is refreshing and energizing to express joyful praise to God together. We encourage active participation in singing and other expressions of worship to God as a key part of each of our meetings as a church family.

-- Developing people into Christ-like maturity through the Word of God --
The highest goal for a person is to grow continually into the character of God Who made us to be like Himself. We study the Bible for practical advice on how to continue to change so that we fulfill His purposes more completely. We want to be fresh in our experience of His life in us.

-- Equipping people for their ministry in the church and life mission in the world --
We each have unique gifts that we can offer to enrich the experience of God by every member of our church family. We share a common mission to reach others with a clear message of God's love and power so that they can enjoy being in God's family also. Training and opportunities for everyone to serve God actively are always present.



I dont see any mention of race???? Hummm??????

Racism is Racism....i dont care how you spin it

[delusionsofNORMALity]

....Blacks have been oppressed and you want to play that card?....

racism begets racism and ignorance breeds it like cattle. history can't be changed, but it can be forgiven. until attitudes of revenge are put aside nothing positive will come about on that front.