Jesus Camp.

[sam44]

that vid is fucked up shit

[harris7]

Harmful? Delusional? So what are you saying... the U.S. should pass laws commanding that only certain "non-harmful" religious beliefs and practices be passed on to children under a certain age? Whether or not I agree with their techniques, these people have the right to teach their children whatever they wish... and you have the right to teach yours whatever you wish. Eventually the kids will grow up and think for themselves. If you want the government to determine which religious beliefs are "harmful" and which are not then move to China, Cuba, or North Korea... and raise some cookie-cutter children.

No, I donâ??t believe a state or anyone has the right to limit the beliefs of others. I once hoped that humans could have the intelligence to censor out absurd beliefs for them selves. Now I realize humans are idiots.

my conflict: its depressing to think that if there is no god life will be over forever, and if Christianity is true, i don't think i could bow down to god. religion causes so much fucking hate, its like how can i be saved if i hate the one thats saving. how can i strive to succeed if all there is is death?

Well thatâ??s religions big appeal isnâ??t it.
Donâ??t let them bribe you from thinking straight.
Consider the justification for having that belief.
Is there reasonable evidence to believe?

(reasonable, not proof)

[harris7]

wow... i am the opposite way with things, but i struggle with it too... especially lately... glad to know someone else realizes we can't know 100%

Haze,
I also agree that no one can know. Most educated people accept this.

No one ever â??knowsâ?� god exists. They â??believeâ?� god exists.
It is only beliefs we have and that we argue about.

Whether or not god does exist (we donâ??t know)
I believe it is unreasonable to believe god exists as there is No reason to.