Try the Grey Area near the red light district plain but a great jukebox well chilled and friendly places though can get busy with daytrippers at the weekend also the Greenhouse effect Warmmostrart again red light district ( im not a deviant i go there with my girlfriend) just get sat in that front window on a nice day with a good smoke ,nothin finer.The big Bulldog on the square i know that one with the coffee shop in the basement ,Liedesplein area some great bars and restraunts but i seem to find the seedier partof town more fun these days (probably a throwback to when i was single and used to go there with the Lads in the early nineties 8 of us in an apartment smack in the middle of the RLD great times) anyway maybe catch you later p.s. did we talk about envirolites the other night in the chatroom