It is illogical to say either religion or atheism causes people to kill. The majority of both groups (atheists and religious people) are kind and gentle. To go against your claim of religion causing more suffering... some of the biggest massacres of all time were at the hands of non-religious or non-spiritual people.

The Holocaust was perpetrated by Adolf Hitler... 5-10 million people brutally murdered by the naturalist/atheist. While growing and coming to power he at times praised Christianity (as a political move), in the end he showed his true colors with comments like, "Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless...", and, "The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... ". As he grew further and further from his Christian upbringing he became more and more sick and murderous.

Joseph Stalin was an atheist who had between 20 and 30 million Russians murdered for their faith and/or political beliefs.

Benito Mussolini was another atheist who had half a million or more people murdered because of their faith or political beliefs.

Almost all the charities that help the poor and the needy were founded on (and many still operate on) religious principles. To take religion and spirituality out of this world would create much more suffering then you think religion itself causes.

Quote Originally Posted by savagepossum
Christianity and every other religion out there has ruined and ended more lives than you could ever imagine it has caused suffering, hate and anger throughout the world.

we for the benifit of the human race need to move on and leave religion behind i say get rid of this 'spirituality' forum.