Any other "conservative" christians out there

[jsn9333]

By "conservative Christian" I mean holds as closely as possible to the Christian Scriptures (the New Testament) as possible, attends church regularly, believes Christ's words even when they're unpopular (for instance when He says in the book of John, "I am the way, the truth, and the life and no one comes to the Father but by me."), etc...

Don't get me wrong, I respect all religions and I suspect we all have a lot to learn from each other. But Christ and the Bible has done too much to help me in life. I'll never be able to deny my utmost faith in the complete truthfulness of the Word of God.

Anyway... the point of my post is... I don't know *anyone* with my core beliefs who smokes weed. When I first became a Christian I was taught any alcohol (and of course weed, crack, whatever) were immoral and forbidden. As I matured in my faith and read the Bible for myself along with prayer, I realized that not only did Christ turn water into wine as his first recorded miracle, but he also is recorded as drinking it!

So I began drinking, because there's nothing better then a good glass of wine or a nice pair of ales, and if Christ made it, drank it, and if drinking one gives me more reason to praise God... then it certainly isn't wrong. Christians are warned in the Scriptures to not get drunk, and so I avoid drinking in excess.

I've recently decided to enjoy the good bud again. I smoked before I became a Christian, and after doing some research about legalization of cannabis (I'm about to enter law school and I'm interested in the war on drugs in general) I realized it is in fact a less addictive, less toxic (almost zero toxicity), and less dangerous drug then alcohol. So WTF, why would it be immoral and alcohol not be? It isn't mentioned in the Scriptures, and I used to just figure it was wrong because alcohol was wrong. But now I'm thinking if I can enjoy some nice beer without abusing it and getting drunk off my ass, it's probably fine to enjoy some nice bud without getting stoned out of my mind. There'd be nothing like smokin' some of God's green bud to make me thankful for Him and His creation. In my conscience, and in my prayers, I feel that I'm not doing anything wrong if I partake. ;-)

Anyway... most of my friends would freak if I told them I smoke. A few of them will laugh and be cool with it, but definitely would not join in. Anyone out there with my beliefs who smokes? I suspect I'm sort of an anomaly in both the "conservative/Baptist" Christian world and the bud smoker's world, but I'm not sure.

jsn9333 Reviewed by jsn9333 on 02-04-2007. Any other "conservative" christians out there By "conservative Christian" I mean holds as closely as possible to the Christian Scriptures (the New Testament) as possible, attends church regularly, believes Christ's words even when they're unpopular (for instance when He says in the book of John, "I am the way, the truth, and the life and no one comes to the Father but by me."), etc... Don't get me wrong, I respect all religions and I suspect we all have a lot to learn from each other. But Christ and the Bible has done too much to help Rating: 5

[2600HERTZ]

God has done many things for myself as well. But that simply doesn't mean men of dark skin were bred to serve me, or that gays are sinful and will go to hell. It just isn't right. And the morality of bud is that it is entirely MORAL, one can be spiritually enlightened under the influence(I was agnostic before I started smoking, i believe it helped me find my way.) I say toke up, say a little prayer thanking god for everything, and turn up some delicious tunes and enjoy yourself.

[JunkYard]

Left wing 'progressive' christian here, lol. Jesus was a cool guy by me, man. I don't think the bible is innerant, but the words in red make me think, and I like the guys style. Talk about being a tree huggin, people lovin hippy protestor...well, Jesus was the man!

The cat apparently walked on water too!


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[savagepossum]

Christianity and every other religion out there has ruined and ended more lives than you could ever imagine it has caused suffering, hate and anger throughout the world.

we for the benifit of the human race need to move on and leave religion behind i say get rid of this 'spirituality' forum.

[JunkYard]

Not every religion, but Christianity and Islam have certainly had their share of conflict in the world.


btw, if you don't like the spirituality forum, don't come here. There are still a few of us who enjoy it. :thumbsup:


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[CheebaMan]

spirituality and religion is good, u believe in what u want

u cant change my mind and i cant change yours

i dont see why conflict is needed

[jsn9333]

Awesome. I'm glad to hear smoking helped you find your faith. And btw, I'm pretty deep in the 'conservative Christian' movement, and I don't know anyone who teaches men of dark skin (or of any color skin) were bred to serve anyone.

Yes, most people who believe in Christian Scriptures that are without error and not "out of date" can't really get around the fact that God seems to indicate homosexuality is immoral and unnatural. That I can't get around. I respect homosexuals, but my faith won't allow me to agree with them morally.

But I will say this. I think trying to legislate sex between consenting adults or legislating marriage is absolute bullshit. I mean, what if it were the other way around and I had a gay legal system disallowing me to marry my lover!? I think that is where the majority of conservative Christians go wrong. Respectfully disagreeing with someone is one thing, but trying to force morality on someone is completely different. Laws should only prevent people from harming other people. Consenting adults should be able to do as they wish. God gave us all a free will to follow Him or to differ with His Word. I think government should do the same.

It's a shame that there is so much in the Church that turns people away from Christ. Ghandi actually said, based on the pure teachings of Christ in the Scriptures, that he would've turned to Christ.... if it weren't for the Christians! Sad.

God has done many things for myself as well. But that simply doesn't mean men of dark skin were bred to serve me, or that gays are sinful and will go to hell. It just isn't right. And the morality of bud is that it is entirely MORAL, one can be spiritually enlightened under the influence(I was agnostic before I started smoking, i believe it helped me find my way.) I say toke up, say a little prayer thanking god for everything, and turn up some delicious tunes and enjoy yourself.

[delusionsofNORMALity]

though i am an atheist, my oldest and dearest friends in the world are the type of christians you are talking about. though i have never pressed the point with them, they seem to have no problem with combining christianity and weed. they also seem to have no problem combining their faith and associating with heathens like me. i have, however, noticed that many conservative christians have a tendency to be law abiding to the extreme. which means that, no matter how asinine the regulation, they will blindly follow the rules so long as it does not interfere with their religious principles.


see, i was nice about it. i can work and play nicely with others, even though i find their beliefs..... (sigh) there i go again

[jsn9333]

It is illogical to say either religion or atheism causes people to kill. The majority of both groups (atheists and religious people) are kind and gentle. To go against your claim of religion causing more suffering... some of the biggest massacres of all time were at the hands of non-religious or non-spiritual people.

The Holocaust was perpetrated by Adolf Hitler... 5-10 million people brutally murdered by the naturalist/atheist. While growing and coming to power he at times praised Christianity (as a political move), in the end he showed his true colors with comments like, "Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless...", and, "The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... ". As he grew further and further from his Christian upbringing he became more and more sick and murderous.

Joseph Stalin was an atheist who had between 20 and 30 million Russians murdered for their faith and/or political beliefs.

Benito Mussolini was another atheist who had half a million or more people murdered because of their faith or political beliefs.

Almost all the charities that help the poor and the needy were founded on (and many still operate on) religious principles. To take religion and spirituality out of this world would create much more suffering then you think religion itself causes.

Christianity and every other religion out there has ruined and ended more lives than you could ever imagine it has caused suffering, hate and anger throughout the world.

we for the benifit of the human race need to move on and leave religion behind i say get rid of this 'spirituality' forum.

[jsn9333]

Right on my friend.

Left wing 'progressive' christian here, lol. Jesus was a cool guy by me, man. I don't think the bible is innerant, but the words in red make me think, and I like the guys style. Talk about being a tree huggin, people lovin hippy protestor...well, Jesus was the man!

The cat apparently walked on water too!


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