yea i would recomend a lightbulb vaporiser/ apple pipe (or any fruit vegtable for that mater) or a mettel pen tube hitter (take the pen appart and take all of the guts out pack some herb and toke) also i good one ive used before is take an eyedroper and take the ruber off the top and pack the fatter end and toke


happy days

~Russ~