I caused a brouhaha today

[stinkyattic]

I hate that argument about how the kid will get made fun of.
It's stupid and outdated.
The world is evolving [slowly] and the more people are just sort of unconcerned that one kid in class is a child of a gay couple, anohter is a product of an interracial marriage, others have different religions, it becomes a nonissue! I mean, it was only just a while ago that interracial couples were really REALLY scorned... now of course bigots still shit on them but the mainstream doesn't seem to notice anymore.
Anyway... gay adopters... ANY adopters... I'd LOVE to see a child go to a family that has to work really really hard to get approved... I mean, ANYONE can get knocked up without approval... it's the really giving, caring people who will go through all the red tape to have the honor of raising another human being.

[Nochowderforyou]

I sometimes visit a web forum for adoption, and today I read a post by a woman who saw an Oprah show about adoption, and she thought it was so great, until it was "marred by the dark intrusion" of a story about a gay couple who were foster parents.
Well, there's nothing that gets my knickers in a knot like prejudice , and by the way, the board is predominantly hard-core Christians (!) so I found it particularly repugnant coming from someone who claims to "love baby Jesus."
So I sent my own little message, saying that Jesus would be appalled by such bigotry etc, etc...and now the right wing Christians are duking it out with the Christians who accept gays! There seem to be an equal number on each side. I am relieved that not all the Christians on the site are stuck in the Old Testament, but I worry about the ones that are, and what they will be teaching their kids. To suggest that a loving gay couple is not fit to care for a foster child is disgusting. Boy, I guess I am still angry. Believe me, I have nothing against Christians per se (I was raised Catholic, and was even baptised as a Baptist when I first got sober, before eventually i found Buddhism, which seems to be a better fit for me.) But I can't help it, that holier than thou attitude makes me ill. I have many, many gay friends who would never dream of judging someone by their race, sex, religion or sexual orientation! And yet some people who claim to be so pure and Christ-like are anything but. It's really depressing.
Oh well, tomorrow I am getting some of the sacred herb - and I shall smoke it until I feel peaceful and forgiving again..:jointsmile:

I know exactly how you feel. I'm not against people believing, but when it comes down to judgment, something that the bible says NOT to do, then it becomes a hypocritical situation, which then makes me angry. I find the hardcore believers to be very judgmental. They will judge you just by the way you dress. You dress in black, oh, they must be Satanists...you listen to heavy music, oh, they must be evil. You smoke cannabis, oh, that's evil. Like, you know, fuck you. :S4:

Back to the main topic though, about gay people being "wrong." I have nothing against people being gay, why should I care what someones sexual pref. is? I don't really care, you know.

My brother and his wife are hardcore Christians. The funny thing is, my brother used to listen to NIn and Marilyn Manson until he met her, and now, I can't even joke with him without God coming into the picture. He finds everything evil. Movies are evil, CSI is evil, cannabis is evil, and mainly, being gay is EVil!

We were watching TV one day, and I noticed Brokeback Mountain was on. I made a joke and said we should watch it. A joke he cannot take...he then proceeded to go on saying it was wrong, and that when a gay couple raises a child, it will become a serial killer or crazy. I was very mad when he said this and I told him right the fuck off. I then told him that Charles Manson grew up in a christian household, along with Dahmer as well, and I mean, those 2 are the sickest killers around.

Before I moved away from Alberta, I read a story about a Morman family. I went to school with 2 of the kids, and it was a big family, like 13 kids. I read in the paper that 2 of the boys are now facing charges because they raped a girl.

Oh wait, I thought religious households were a good thing. :S4: Fuck that and fuck all you extreme believers. Pull your head out of your ass. There is no magic man in the sky guiding you through life. It is a fairy tale story that is not believeable, and they call us crazy?! Out of 10 billion people in this world, they think God has chosen them. Give me a break.

Anyways, I've gone long enough. Look at the middle East. These are people who strongly believe in a God and look at the state of that country. We let the christians take over, and that's how we'll be too. Fighting over who's god is better.

[Demeter]

I'm glad so many of you guys agree- at least the whole world isn't insane.

I believe in many ways we are what we see, and people who see evil everywhere except in themselves are merely seeing their own shadows.
I got sucked into anger against those people for a few days, and that is how those fuckers win. I doubt that the fundamentalists of any religion can ever be eliminated, so we have to make sure our viewpoint is expressed, without getting disgusted to the point of nausea.

I'm going to try to switch my mindviewer to the Beauty and Truth channel- that way I hear music and see the brilliant trees against the sky as well as feel love and a sense of purpose in the moment.Even if I just tune in once per day, it really perks me up

That's why weed is so great for me because it helps me stay in the now and feel better, since fear only lives in anxiety for the future.

[Mrs. Greenjeans]

QUOTH STINKY:Anyway... gay adopters... ANY adopters... I'd LOVE to see a child go to a family that has to work really really hard to get approved... I mean, ANYONE can get knocked up without approval... it's the really giving, caring people who will go through all the red tape to have the honor of raising another human being.

Hear hear!:clap:

[stinkyattic]

people who see evil everywhere except in themselves are merely seeing their own shadows. .

Demeter, you now have a signature... if you choose to accept it. What a fantastic quip.

[Nochowderforyou]

I believe in many ways we are what we see, and people who see evil everywhere except in themselves are merely seeing their own shadows.

I like that quote. I'm going to add it to my sig. as it speaks the truth.

[smoking habit]

oh man gay parents piss me off.

[Purple Banana]

While we're on the topic, I work with postpartum moms and their babies, and I have to say, mixed race babies are the CUTEST things ever. It's so great to see a black husband and white wife, or vice versa... They tend to be more down to earth and loving than many of the people that come in... I like the hair/skin combo, it's really beautiful.

HOORAY that more and more people aren't keeping to the traditional black and black, white and white relationships. Hopefully the world will be more welcoming with gay marriage and child raising as well...

[Demeter]

Demeter, you now have a signature... if you choose to accept it. What a fantastic quip.

Thank you dear miss stinky! It's my tweak on Jung. How do I make it my signature- user cp? But don't most people quote other people? I don't want to be a blowhard :S3:

My sweet husband is off to Auburn, Maine for the winter festival, to make ice sculptures, and I am going to go to Lowes tonight -I love Lowes!
I need some shorter lights for the veg room, and a new timer. What an exciting friday night. They should have seeds too, and even though I shouldn't, I will buy some!

[Demeter]

I like that quote. I'm going to add it to my sig. as it speaks the truth.

Thank you nochowderforyou. I like your poopie avatar