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12-07-2004, 09:58 AM #1
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Just took 10 H.B. Woodrose Seeds
Yes, but often with pesticides. I recommend buying from an organic place. If you can't do that, wash thoroughly.
Encatuse Reviewed by Encatuse on . Just took 10 H.B. Woodrose Seeds As the title suggests, I just took 10 Hawaiin Baby Woodrose seeds. I'll tell everyone the results tomorrow. Or tonight if I'm still up once they wear off. Rating: 5
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12-07-2004, 10:36 AM #2
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Just took 10 H.B. Woodrose Seeds
Im 6.1'' 130lbs., How many should i take and how long can i expect to trip for?
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12-07-2004, 12:13 PM #3
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Just took 10 H.B. Woodrose Seeds
Take 6. Expect 6 hours. An hour before you take them, chew calamus root ((if you have it)) or if you dont, take some over the counter anti-nausea medication. If you aren't tripping in 2 hours off 6, take 4 boosters depending on how you feel.
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12-07-2004, 06:01 PM #4
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Just took 10 H.B. Woodrose Seeds
Encatuse: did you end up vomiting during any part of your trip? i know that all rosewood seeds contain poison (cyanide-esque) in their husks and even sometimes a bit in the seeds themselves... all natually occouring, of course.
that's the one factor that stops me from taking them. i know you're supposed to take the shell/husk off each seed, but the fact that there are still traces in the seed itself makes me wish i could extract the lsa purely, leaving behind the shite.
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12-08-2004, 03:21 AM #5
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Just took 10 H.B. Woodrose Seeds
There are LSA extraction processes for HB Woodrose seeds. I recommend using one. Or, do what most people do as a time saver and burn off the husk with a mini-torch lighter. Anyway, yes, on my first trip the only effects were me vomitting. Three times.
The second time was much better, no nausea whatsoever ((I chewed calamus root, a natural digestive aid before during and after seed ingestion)) and a completely trippy trip. Ive been unable to replicate this experience, so I'm probably done with LSA. I can't even get CEV's anymore. The first time I did feel the effects I took 8 seeds, then 4 boosters. Ive taken as much as 16 at one time since then and felt NOTHING. No nausea, no CEV's, literally nothing. I guess tolerance builds quickly for this.
Check out erowid.org for some easy LSA extraction methods using MG seeds of HBW seeds. Remember 1 HBW seed = 10-30 MG seeds.
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12-17-2004, 10:59 PM #6
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Just took 10 H.B. Woodrose Seeds
your supposed to eat 30 and up for a good trip
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12-19-2004, 07:48 PM #7
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Just took 10 H.B. Woodrose Seeds
This is only for educational purposes I am not responsible for some moron who decides to make a drug lab.
According to "Journal of Agricultural Food Chem. 1989, 37, 708-712"
By colorimetric spectroscopy it was found that the following varieties yielded ergoline alkaliods.
Horticultural domestic blends of heavenly blue varieties from; Holland yielded 35mg alkaloid/100g seeds, Denmark 22mg alkaliods/100g seeds, and Germany 10mg alkaloids/100g seeds.
For large amounts of pure seeds why don't you plant a bunch of morning glory vines and collect the seeds in the fall, you will probably end up with a decent quantity of seeds without any pesticides on them. Don't forget morning glory seeds have strychnine in them so you might want to de-fat them with petroleum ether. Petroleum ether is a mixture of ligher hydrocarbons with pentanes and heptanes compared to heavy gasolines with octanes in the mixture. You can buy petroleum ether at wal-mart, its ozark trail camping fuel, which is extremely flamable and is the reason meth. labs explode. The petroleum ether must be distilled because there are none-volatile impurites present in the camping fuel that are poisonous. The the hydrocabons sould be distilled off so you will have pure solvent. For ethanol you cannot use ethanol from hardwear store because it is denaturated like the ether. Everclear grain alcohol from the liquor store being 90% ethanol would do nicely. organic compounds like petroleum ether are extremely flamable/explosive, and poisonous as we'll.
Delta9 chemistry.
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12-19-2004, 09:04 PM #8
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Other valid references involving ergot derivatives could probably be found on chemical abstracts or ACS publications.
"Recent investigations on Ergot Alkaloids" Stoll, A. Received May 3, 1950.
I am not a chemist but I have taken Organic Chemistry, Analytical Chemistry, Physical Chemistry, and Inorganic Chemistry. Most Chemists are more like analysts who Identify and quantitatively measure the compnents in mixtures, unknown samples, metal ion contents in waters, ect.
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12-19-2004, 09:30 PM #9
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Just took 10 H.B. Woodrose Seeds
Ergot derivatives will also decompose when exposed to uv and visible radiation it is therefore necessary to keep them out of the light. An actual LSD-25 sythesis would be extremely complicated and even your average chemist may have trouble synthesizing it. Alber Hoffman was a skilled chemist and probably had a PhD. In many cases the data of measurements of Lysergic acid and clavine alkaloid derivatives in morning glory seeds has been difficult to interpret to to a great variation in extraction procedures. In lots of cases morning glory seeds are weeds in soybean fields so research has been conducted with the aim of eradicating the toxic nuisance weeds from the fields. Chlorogenic acid has also been detected in morning glory seeds in much higher percentages then the ergoline compounds.
P.S. Remeber High intesity grow lights are harmful to your eyes and over exposure could lead to vision problems.
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12-19-2004, 11:13 PM #10
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Just took 10 H.B. Woodrose Seeds
pyridine
dimethylaminoacetonitrile
2-methylpyridine
methylpyrazine
a methylpyrimidine
2,6-dimethylpyridine
3-methylpyridine
dimethyl- or ethylthiazole- or -isothiazole (2 isomers)
4-methylpyridine
2-ethylpyridine
dimethyl- or ethylpyrazine or -pyrimidine (3 isomers)
trimethyl-, ethylmethyl-, or propylpyridine (20 isomers)
2,5-dimethylpyridine
2,4-dimethylpyridine
2,3-dimethylpyridine
3-ethylpyridine
2-vinylpyridine
4-ethylpyridine
a trimethyl- or methylethylthiazole or -isothiazole
trimethyl or methylpyrazine or -pyrimidine (4 isomers)
butyl-, methylpropyl-, diethyl-, ethyldimethyl-, or tetramethylpyridine (33 isomers)
3,5-dimethylpyridinepropyl-, methyl-, or trimethylpyrazole or imidazole (15 isomers)
3-vynilpyridine
3,4-dimethylpyridine
methylvynil- or propenylpyridine, or azaindan (15 isomers)
butyl-, methylpropyl-, diethyl-, dimethyl-, or tetramethylpyrimidine or -pyrazine (5 isomers)
alkylpyridine with five or more carbon atoms in saturated side chain(s) (45 isomers)
butyl-, methylpropyl-, diethyl-, dimethylethyl-, or tetramethylpyrazole or -imidazole (16 isomers)
3-methoxypyridine
2-acetylpyridine
N-furfurylpyrrolidine (?)
a methylmethoxypyridine
benzaldehyde
4-methylthio-2-butanone (?)
methylacetylpyridine (4 isomers)
1-methylimidazole
furfuryl alcohol
ethylvinyl-, dimethyl-, methylpropenyl-, or butenylpyridine, or methylazaindan or tertahydronaphthalene (35 isomers)
ethyl-, or dimethylpyrazole or imidazole (5 isomers)
benzoxazole
3-acetylpyridine
methylamino- or aminomethylpyridine (15 isomers)
pyridine with five carbons in sidechains including double bond, or forming one ring (41 isomers)
a methylfurfurylpyrrolidine (?)
2-propionylpyridine
4-acetylpyridine
dimethyl- or ethylacetylpyridine (2 isomers)
2-aminopyridine
alkylpyrazole or -imidazole with five or more carbon atoms in saturated side chain(s) (42 isomers)
methylamino- or aminomethylpyrazine or -pyrimidine or diaminopyridine (4 isomers)
aminoethyl-, ethylamino-,aminodimethylamino-, or methylaminomethylpyridine (13 isomers)
divinylpyridine, azadihydronaphthalene or methylazaindene (2 isomers)
quinoline
nicotine
diazanaphthalene (2 isomers)
a methyloxyaminopyridine (?)
isoquinoline
indazole or pyrrolopyridine (3 isomers)
aminoethyl-, ethylamino-, aminodimethyldimethylamino-, or methylaminomethylpyrazine or -pyrimidine or methyldiaminopyridine (5 isomers)
8-methylquinoline
2-methylquinoline
7-methylquinoline
4-methylquinoline
other methylquinolines and -isoquinolines (10 isomers; 14 in all)
methylindazole, -benzinidazole, or -pyrrolopyridine (12 isomers)
pyridine with five or more carbon atoms in side chaines including two double bonds or containing one ring and one double bond (11 isomers)
2-tert-butylphenol
2,4-dimethyl- or ethylquinolines or -isoquinolines (19 isomers; 20 in all methyldiazanaphthalene (3 isomers)
dimethyl-, or ethylindazole, benzimidazole, or pyrrolopyridine (23 isomers)
aminopyridine with three carbon atoms in saturated side chain(s) (8 isomers)
an aminopyrazine or -pyrimidine with threecarbon atoms in saturated side chain(s) or a dimethyl- or ethyldiaminopyridine
vinylquinoline or phenylpyridine (3 isomers)
methylvinylquinoline or methylphenylpyridine (6 isomers)
2-pyridinecarboxamide
aminopyridine with four carbon atoms in saturated side chain(s) (3 isomers)
an azaindanone (?)
a methylpyridinecarboxamide
methylpyrrolopyrimidine or -pyrazine (?) (2-isomers)
a dimethyl- or ethylpyrrolopyrimidine or -pyrazine (?)
propyl-, methylethyl-, or trimethylquinoline or -isoquinoline (4 isomers)
quinoline or isoquinoline with four or more carbon atoms in saturated side chain(s) (2 compounds)
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