bucknuts, theres a time and a place for knowing your limit and going barreling past. that i think is the key, being able to control yourself when you need too, like a family drinking occasion. or a getting sloshed bash out in the woods.

mobabn~ im the exact opposite, i used to smoke all the time and drink like 3-4 beers, then i discovered the joys of alcohol. now i drink my fair share, but i very very rarely smoke.