AIDS: Man Made Virus

[pwn3dy0]

It may, or may not be man made. There is really no way to tell, yet. However, The UN has said we have a population problem, as did David Rockefeller, and one of their long term goals is to reduce world population. We also know the Rockefellers founded and funded the "Population Council". They research the following, HIV and AIDS; Poverty, Gender, and Youth; and Reproductive Health. It's ironic that he would fund a group that is supposely for helping people when the rockefeller commission on poulation control said the following regarding population control in 1972. "In any case, no generation needs to know the ultimate goal or the final means, only the direction to which they will be found."

We also have Dr. Len Horowitz who firmly established in his 1995 book, Emerging Viruses, that the HIV virus which causes AIDS was introduced and spread throughout the majority of black populations in Africa via the World Health Organization (WHO) during their mandatory smallpox vaccine campaigns of 1976-1980.


Whether HIV was a man made virus is yet to be seen. However, all evidence is pointing towards Yes. Also, 11.5% of nurses in South Africa now have HIV, and numerous ones have said they did not have sex/share needles when working there. Just some food for thought there.

[pwn3dy0]

Just clarifying, I know the virus itself was not man made, I was referring to the spread of the virus.

[weedypowerpuff]

That's smart. Don't take AZT if you have HIV.

This site is cool, but when stoners start theorizing about things about which they know nothing, it gets a bit ridiculous.

Don't take AZT by any means. It is not a theory it is a fact that AZT is deadlier than carrying HIV in your body. AZT is powerful chemotherapy.

[Delta9 UK]

Don't take AZT by any means. It is not a theory it is a fact that AZT is deadlier than carrying HIV in your body. AZT is powerful chemotherapy.

AZT was initially conceived of as an anti-cancer drug Yes! but that's about as accurate as your statement gets.

No offence but you don't seem to know what you are talking about. AZT is a reverse transcriptase inhibitor which means that it can interfere with DNA during cell division.

AZT has a much higher affinity for HIV reverse transcriptase than it does for Human DNA polymerase. So basically the AZT attacks the HIV's ability to replicate because it goes after it in a big way vs attacking your own body.

It isn't a nice drug by any means but what you are saying has no real basis in fact.

[ghaldos]

I read before that back in the 30s or 40s there were 2 scientists which were trying to create a cheaper drug to cure a disease, smallpox I think, one scientist went to africa and synthesized a vaccine from some monkeys (not sure exact type) and the other went to russia (not exactly sure on the location) to do the same thing. The Scientist that went to Russia had created a cheap drug which did what it was supposed to. Later and before the drug was released the scientist in russia took a look at the medicine and discovered that it had an unknown virus in it and told him, but was brushed off and he released it anyway. Obviously there's no proof on it but it was thought that he released it in africa anyway because if not his ego would be bruised that his rival created a vaccine while he did not.

[horror business]

I was at Barnes and Nobles Bookstore about a year and a half ago, and my friend and I started a conversation with this one guy, and it turns out he has aids, but is still alive, after 20 years, when they said he should have been dead. He was gay, and told us his boyfriend, who took medication died, and alot of there friends died of aids, but he never took the medication, not one bit of it, and he thinks that's why he's still alive and well.

[ghaldos]

everyones immune system is different I remember hearing a while back someone in uk had aids and was cured with no medical reason.

[weedypowerpuff]

Do you really know all the facts? That is to say have you seen for yourself. I have seen terrible aids patients. These people when diagnosed with HIV continue a downward spiral. They cotinue the same lifestyles but one thing changes, drug therapy.Then eventually they succumb to the disease or the therapy and those are facts.

A common link seems to be a lifestyle that involves heavy drug use. There are other cases where the innocent died from the onset of "Aids" due to "HIV" but in reality the therapy is hard on the body and can and does usually lead to death. AZT is one of the most dangerous drugs ever approved by the FDA.

What about HIV that goes into remission or dissapears, and yes, it has and does happen. There are groups who publicly denounce HIV and aids therapy. Lots of these people tested positive for HIV and are still alive today.

You can't believe everything you are told as fact. Satan isn't working out of some pizza parlor boy. We've been lied to for years. Fact has proven itself to be fiction before. You should look at this objetively before you jump to any conclusions about it based on what you are told. There is another angle to the story. Look into it.

[JackdaWack]

Its called a virus for a reason..... in some cases a body can fight it off, in some it cannot. I wouldnt jump to say medical treatment will or will not benifit the infected, i personally know nothing about the treatments, however i do kno every person and there bodies are diferent, and we should all know what a virus is. There is no way that it is man made i think most of us can agree on that, and i belive medical treatment should be analized on how your body is reacting to the virus. There is no medicine for the common cold becuase it is a virus, all viruses act the same, some obviously more serious then others. If it is belived your body can fight off a virus on its own, medical treatment can retard the process by simply affecting your imune system. We know so much about the viruses them selves.... but to our knowlege just like cancer the only treatment we know is to kill it off by means of chemotherapy, which actually kills just about everything. From an aids point of view or hiv where as it infects the whole body, we cannot use such methods, so im assuming the treatments are not to rid of the virus but rather keep it from mulitplying rapidly. You dont walk into a doctors office and they say take this and it will go away, as a matter of fact they pretty much tell you its with you for life, there only trying to help to there best ability that science knows.

[Delta9 UK]

You can't believe everything you are told as fact. Satan isn't working out of some pizza parlor boy. We've been lied to for years. Fact has proven itself to be fiction before. You should look at this objetively before you jump to any conclusions about it based on what you are told. There is another angle to the story. Look into it.

Yep Nef- deletants, mutation, multiple HIV types and sub-types affinity to certain tissue types. I'm not going to be an arse about it but with a degree in Medical Microbiology I think I can look at this objectively.

AZT is a dangerous drug and it is capable of killing you. We have only been around this disease for 25 years and are not even close to effective treatment imho.

If you are HIV positive you will eventually progress to an AIDS state, unless you have an exotic genetic makeup like the 5% of HIV patients who are non progressors and do not go on to develop AIDS.