AIDS: Man Made Virus

[mcweedy]

Last night I was with some friends and we were all sitting around the bong and we started discussing how the U.S. government created the AIDS virus. I did some independent research on this "theory" and it started making more and more sense. Turns out the U.S. government created it in the 70s under the Nixon administration. Their intent was to create a deadly virus that could control population, kill off less desireble people in society (such as the poor, drug addicts, gays) and save america from degeneration. It was then given to prison inmates in the late 70s who voluntered as guinea pigs and were relesed and that is how it spread through the population. Why do you think the first documented case was in america was in 1981? Many scientists have also concluded that the biological agent causing AIDs does not occur naturaly in nature. It was a combination of other lethal viruses. Are you convinced yet?

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mcweedy Reviewed by mcweedy on 01-27-2007. AIDS: Man Made Virus Last night I was with some friends and we were all sitting around the bong and we started discussing how the U.S. government created the AIDS virus. I did some independent research on this "theory" and it started making more and more sense. Turns out the U.S. government created it in the 70s under the Nixon administration. Their intent was to create a deadly virus that could control population, kill off less desireble people in society (such as the poor, drug addicts, gays) and save america Rating: 5

[eg420ne]

Dude! it came from a monkeys ass.. Naw i believe as well its man made, to kill off certain people/races... we really do have evil in high places

"The world has a cancer, and that cancer is man."
Merton Lambert - former spokesman for the Rockefeller Foundation - Harpeth Journal, December 18, '62

"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels."
Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund -

[birdgirl73]

You need to do a little more reading about viruses before you decide that one's a man-made, conspiracy-driven creation. For one thing, it's much older than you realize (read the link below), and it pre-dates the days when virus-engineering was even a possibility.
AIDS origin - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Scientists know how viruses like HIV begin in the animal population, and they're fairly certain that particular one originated in primates. If you learn a bit more about viruses, you'll learn that the most deadly ones we know originate in animals (influenza, bird flu, Spanish flu, smallpox) and mutate until they're able to make a jump to humans. If HIV were a human creation designed to annihilate an undesirable portion of the population, then why have there been such government-supported advances in the medicines that treat it? Why would the governments and scientists even have bothered?

[eg420ne]

Lets look at a corporations/persons that dumped aids infected meds on unwilling victims(BAYERS) hmmmm make you think if this is wide-spread or not..It just proves a point that men are evil, esp in high places.. No telling all the unknowns or the known knowns that have been screwed up....Hell! men been trying to make biochems(bio-warfare) for decades who can really said they didnt find one or eight...
Sunshine's Place
SCARBOROUGH: I had to wait a second for that, but it was worth the wait.
Anyway, this is where we share the sometimes inhumane ways that corporate America has found to screw consumers. Tonight's spotlight, the Bayer corporation. And I've got to tell you, this is one of the worst drug-related medical disasters I think in history.
And let me bring in Mike Papantonio right now, who is a legal adviser to SCARBOROUGH COUNTRY, to talk about what Bayer did.
Mike, welcome to the show. We appreciate you being on tonight.
MIKE PAPANTONIO, NBC LEGAL ANALYST: Thanks for the invitation, Joe.
SCARBOROUGH: OK, let's talk about the "Rat of the Week." Why is Bayer Corporation the "Rat of the Week"?
PAPANTONIO: Internal documents show that after this company positively, absolutely knew that they had a medication that was infected with the AIDS virus, they took the product off the market in the U.S. and then they dumped it in France, Europe, Asia and Latin America. The medicine is called Factor VIII. It was an injection medicine that was used for hemophiliacs, mostly children, children who had been born with an incurable disease.
(CROSSTALK)
SCARBOROUGH: Hold on. So you're telling me that Bayer knew that this drug was infected with the AIDS virus, they yanked it from the market in America, and then they dumped it in markets overseas?
PAPANTONIO: They had to figure out a way, Joe, to make a profit on a product that they could not sell in America. So they made a huge profit. They dropped the product in Japan, Spain and France.
By the way, Joe, government official in France that allowed that to happen actually had to go to prison for it. In America, not one corporate executive for this company has been indicted or even criminally investigated by our Justice Department.
SCARBOROUGH: Why not? You're telling me that these people that dump this AIDS-tainted blood in foreign countries, who killed children, have not been taken to task in the United States?
PAPANTONIO: It's worse than that.
The U.S. government allowed it to happen. The FDA allowed this to happen. And now the government is completely looking the other way. Thousands of innocent hemophiliacs have died from the AIDS virus. And not only they are dying. Their family members are dying, because they're becoming infected with the disease. This company knew absolutely that they had a problem with the product. They knew that it was infected with AIDS.
They dumped it because they wanted to turn this disaster into a profit.
SCARBOROUGH: Mike, I want to read to you what Bayer told "The New York Times" about this scandal.
They said: "Bayer behaved responsibly, ethically, and humanely. Decisions made nearly two decades ago were based on the best scientific information of the time and were consistent with the regulations in place."
That sounds like a lot of legal mumbo jumbo. Now, you say you have internal documents that show that they knew that this drug they were dumping was tainted with the AIDS virus?
PAPANTONIO: The documents show that there was no question that this company absolutely understood the risk. They knew the it was contaminated. It wasn't a possibility. They knew it was contaminated.
Americans were dying from the product before it was pulled off the market. The only reason it was pulled off the market is because lawyers found the documents and showed it to the government. And, finally, the government said, you can't sell it here, but then the government allowed them to dump it in Spain, France and Japan.
(CROSSTALK)
SCARBOROUGH: That's just amazing.
I want to read to you what "The New York Times" said. And this is an investigation that they also did. And they said, the federal government was part of the problem, while the Food & Drug Administration told the company not to ship the drugs overseas. The man responsible for the drug supply-quote-"asked that the issue be quietly solved without alerting the Congress, the medical community and the public."
This is a cover-up, and our Congress is not doing anything. What should Americans do? Should they call their congressman? Should they call the FDA? What should they do to take care of this rat?
PAPANTONIO: Joe, I don't think it does any good to call the government. The government has seen the problem. They're ignoring it. It's pretty obvious that our government doesn't care.
But one thing you can do is understand that, every time you buy one of these products from Bayer Corporation, a German corporation, every time you buy one of their products, you are participating with a company that killed unsuspecting hemophiliacs by the thousands. And you know what? They got away with it. This is a company that only Ann Coulter could love. Thanks, Joe.
SCARBOROUGH: Oh, don't say that. Don't say that, Mike. You're killing me here. I love Ann Coulter.
Well, thanks so much for being with us. And if you don't watch yourself, you're not going to come back to tell us who the "Rat of the Week is." Seriously, thanks for coming on the show.
And I've got to tell you, Bayer, what a rat. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Im just sayin you never know

[eg420ne]

Speaking of evil deeds that men/corporations do, why would they resurrect the spanish flu and then send samples of it all over the world....hmmmm.... saying it was a mistake

[weedypowerpuff]

HIV seems to be big business. Google 10 good reasons HIV doesen't cause Aids. You will find yourself with 10 damn good reasons to believe it doesen't. Should you ever test positive for HIV do not take the AZT therapy. In fact stay away from anything they try to give you.

Tere is mounting evidence from some scientist that seems to point at cocaine, and heroin abuse along with some other drugs. Do yourself a favor and look into it.

[dannyboy420]

That's smart. Don't take AZT if you have HIV.

This site is cool, but when stoners start theorizing about things about which they know nothing, it gets a bit ridiculous.

[MAGnum]

Aids is caused by HIV, definately. There are other ways to destroy your immune system too. Using cocain whilst HIV infected makes the virus all coked out too and it replicates like crazy when cocain is present.

Also, AIDS is definately not man made but did come from primates. This doesn't mean Man hasn't used it to infect certain groups. This is a possibility, but it's a small one. I used to think that Africa was given aids to kill all the people there, but there is no evidance of this so it is quite irrational to even believe this..

[Gatekeeper777]

Aids was made when a man stuck his dick into a monkey.
hatred, ignorance and fear was created by mankind when he pulled out.

[Breukelen advocaat]

In order to infect someone HIV has to have an entry point on the body, and heterosexual men usually don't get it unless they have shared needles with infected people or have another disease(s), such as gonorrhea or herpes, that provides a pathway. They still have to be cautious, though.