AIDS: Man Made Virus

[Cannabis Kitten]

Last night I was with some friends and we were all sitting around the bong and we started discussing how the U.S. government created the AIDS virus. I did some independent research on this "theory" and it started making more and more sense. Turns out the U.S. government created it in the 70s under the Nixon administration. Their intent was to create a deadly virus that could control population, kill off less desireble people in society (such as the poor, drug addicts, gays) and save america from degeneration. It was then given to prison inmates in the late 70s who voluntered as guinea pigs and were relesed and that is how it spread through the population. Why do you think the first documented case was in america was in 1981? Many scientists have also concluded that the biological agent causing AIDs does not occur naturaly in nature. It was a combination of other lethal viruses. Are you convinced yet?

If anyone has any questions or would like to contribute to this discussion don't hesitate!

I have a question. How about showing us your evidence instead of just your "theory" and while you're at it, how about some credible sources as to where you acquired the information to support your theory that AIDS is man made. But please, don't stop there, how about telling us who these "many scientists" are that concluded that the "biological agent causing AIDS does not occur naturally in nature." are and what their credentials are.

Cannabis Kitten Reviewed by Cannabis Kitten on 03-30-2007. AIDS: Man Made Virus Last night I was with some friends and we were all sitting around the bong and we started discussing how the U.S. government created the AIDS virus. I did some independent research on this "theory" and it started making more and more sense. Turns out the U.S. government created it in the 70s under the Nixon administration. Their intent was to create a deadly virus that could control population, kill off less desireble people in society (such as the poor, drug addicts, gays) and save america Rating: 5

[Delta9 UK]

everyones immune system is different I remember hearing a while back someone in uk had aids and was cured with no medical reason.

You mean Andrew Stimpson - there is NO evidence he was HIV positive in the first place. He didn't have AIDS btw.

Andrew Stimpson - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No-one and I mean no-one has recovered from AIDS state and gotten rid of this Virus - I wish that was true as it could offer invaluable insight into this virus.

[bong_man]

i think man made it! the us got some fucker to fuck a monkey then fuck loads of other fucks and they kept on fucking and fucking and fucking and dying and fucking and having babys and fucking

[JackdaWack]

there are many thoughts on it another one is that maybe some one banged a tribal woman, and they eat monkeys or probably at one point did contracting the virus and further spreading it, thats alittle better then the some one fucked a monkey but its all possible.

[Rowansraven]

The key sentence in the Wikipedia blurb on AIDS is "HIV originated in non-human primates as far as is known " that in itself is far from definite and not exactly confidence inspiring. Don't believe everything you read just because the people who came to that conclusion have a few extra letters to put with their names.

[DryGuy420]

I beleive that the AIDS virus is/was a naturally occurring virus. I have read that the first cases were reported in the 1600's long before it was ever given a name. However like the deadliest viruses out there governments have been playing with them to make them more destructive through mutation. I beleive that the US alongside other governments have toyed with it to try to create a bio weapon out of it but it just doesnt act fast enough to actually release it to any effect. Like other viruses and bacteria these are living organisims,like fleas on a dog,a parasite,and these creatures are alive. To say we have created a virus says that we have created life,and that will open up a whole new can of worms w/the religious. While i beleive we are not far off from creating life artificially and ending the religious confines of our world,i just dont beleive it has happened yet. Anyway back to topic,AIDS was a naturally occurring virus,they have found it in nature linked to the green monkey in africa,im sure it was devistating in its natural form,but after humans got their hands on it we have destruction 10 fold. You think this is bad? Wait till some genetic scientist finds a way to make it air borne and extend its life span outside of a host. It is coming

[Delta9 UK]

The key sentence in the Wikipedia blurb on AIDS is "HIV originated in non-human primates as far as is known " that in itself is far from definite and not exactly confidence inspiring. Don't believe everything you read just because the people who came to that conclusion have a few extra letters to put with their names.

I would beleive them over stoners on a pot forum :stoned:

HIV is most likely a jump from SIV (Simian Immunodeficiency Virus) and at a best guess from the Bushmeat trade. Monkey were slaughtered and blood-blood transfer would have happened on several occassions.

Continued exposure over time would give enough opportunity for the SIV to transfer in significant numbers and select out HIV. e.g. SIVsm and Green Monkeys.

An article published in The Lancet in 2004, also shows how retroviral transfer from primates to hunters is still occurring even today. In a sample of 1099 individuals in Cameroon , they discovered to ten (1%) were infected with SFV (Simian Foamy Virus), an illness which, like SIV, was previously thought only to infect primates. All these infections were believed to have been acquired through the butchering and consumption of monkey and ape meat. Discoveries such as this have led to calls for an outright ban on bushmeat hunting to prevent simian viruses being passed to humans.

Source: Wolfe, ND; Switzer, WM; Carr, JK; et al. (20 March 2004) "Naturally acquired simian retrovirus infections in Central African Hunters." The Lancet, Vol. 363, p. 932

Still a theory though - but a very solid one with a shitload of evidence.

[Delta9 UK]

If you want a conspiracy for HIV look into the WHO vaccination campaigns and how they might have spread HIV throughout Africa

I don't buy it myself but there are some who beleive it :stoned:

[Dave Byrd]

While you're at it, don't come to the conclusion that a virus that began before man had the biomedical engineering skills to engineer a virus was manmade just because a bunch of paranoic whack jobs say so. I'll put my trust in the folks who've been to school and the ones who study viral development instead of the ones who need a psych consult any day.

[surreys princess]

well said doc...well said......