Well I've charded it a little or a few times, that was because I was pushing the envelope to get every last bit of vapor possible. I went and bought a downstem for the Vaporstar bong and then used the Pipeorizer to bong vape. It was good but didn't work as well I thought it would with bong water(but I got the herb wet when I tilted it - Stoner Move). It just takes more partice but I could see it working very well. Right now my favorite method of vapeing is just strait up VaporStar use or Pipeorizer, the Pipeorizer allows for slightly bigger hits because you don't have to fill a bong up with alot of air(like you do with the VaporStar) before it gets in your lungs, with the VaporStar the heat is better applied and there is less chance of schorching the herb. It really blends the heated air well and keeps you from burning herb but allows you to just reach that temp to get the very last bit out of your herb. Looking at the VaporStar heating element I see 20 airflow holes to mix it better, the Pipeorizer has one big one that is mixed with room temp air(anotherr side hole), as you know I love both but the VaporStar is superior at air control and consistency, the Pipeorizer works VERY WELL and fits into a shirt pocket I like the Pipeorizer so much I have 4 of them and I'm thinking about geting another VaporStar.

Vapor hits are always descending. First hit is AWESOME AND SMOOTH, 2 hit is good vapor hit, 3-5 are about 1/3 of the first hit but still nice little hits, 6-10 are very small and pushing it a litlle here helps and sometimes you find a little vapor you didn't think was there. Again I can not state enough how much you need a grinder if you vape, it's night and day on the quality of the hits vs if you break the herbs up by hand. You HAVE TO STIR THE BOWL to get the very best hits, and a stir every hit is the best way but don't wait more than 3 hits before stiring. I always mist/water my herb 5 minutes before vapeing. I have a spray bottle I got at the drug stroe and I just apply 3-5 very very fine mist sprays to the GROUND UP HERB it works very well at condition the herb for uptake.

VAPE ON. imp: