is it democracy when.....

[PatrickHenry]

P4B is pure entertainment! I love him cause he demonstrates what we are up against as patriots.

I do agree, don't let things get personal. I would still smoke up with P4B after I school him.

[Psycho4Bud]

While I understand the personal attacks part of the rules. Diama's comments really didn't seem any worse then what Bong30 has been doing in almost all his replies. Can I not say that "Dumb lib" is a personal insult? And you yourself have said "If you can't take the heat, get out of the politics forum."

THIS is the reason why politics stays here. There was a vote in here a while back asking members if they wanted to have the same guidelines as the other forums. The polls stated no, that due to the nature of politics that we/politics should have a bit more slack. OTHER FORUMS such as the lounge does not hold to this flaming rule and MOST of the comments in here would result in a 7 day vacation.

Like it or not........thats how it is. Now if someone in here would like to open a new poll asking is we SHOULD follow the same guidelines I'd be more than happy to go along with the result. I really don't think that MOST of the posters in politics would enjoy going by the same guidelines.

ALSO, it has been very well stated that when ANY mod is in this forum debating politics their ass is up for grabs like anyone elses. If we are in here MODERATING it is a completely different story.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

Here's a thread that was created by a different mod that explains this also.....
http://boards.cannabis.com/cannabis-...-sections.html

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Psycho4Bud]

P4B is pure entertainment! I love him cause he demonstrates what we are up against as patriots.

I do agree, don't let things get personal. I would still smoke up with P4B after I school him.

I'd be honored to smoke up a fat one with ANYONE from the politics forum. It would make for a very interesting session.........teaching you all while catching a buzz. LMAO!!!

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[geonagual]

World opinion is against the U.S. escalation in Iraq. The American people are against it. The Congress is against it. The Iraqi people are against it.
The Iraqi government is against it.

Can a single 'man" force a nation to fight a war it does not want to fight, expand a war it does not want to expand ? If he can, is that nation any longer a democracy in any meaningful sense ?
Didnt Saddam think he could do what he wanted too regardless of world opinion? And wasnt it the USA who said......"the world has spoken?" before we invavded, set up a puppet government, and occupied a foreign nation?

It seems as though bush has taken the same path as hitler, saddam and others, in the sense that t(he)y thought t(he)y could do what they wanted without concern for the rest of the worlds opinion or permission.

dai*ma San Francisco California USA

and now, back to the topic......

Bush's crusade has not worked out well for him. He thought the overthrow of the Saddam would be easy and that he would be a hero of the world.
Reality is......he fucked up huge.
He has lied and bamboozled the American people and the world for that matter.
His war on Terror has been a joke. The strategies for fighting this war have been wrong from the beginning and now he is in the middle of a shit sandwich with no easy way out.
George Bush has created more terrorists than Osama Bin Laden ever did.

[LuckyNiner]

World opinion is against the U.S. escalation in Iraq. The American people are against it. The Congress is against it. The Iraqi people are against it.
The Iraqi government is against it.

Can a single 'man" force a nation to fight a war it does not want to fight, expand a war it does not want to expand ? If he can, is that nation any longer a democracy in any meaningful sense ?
Didnt Saddam think he could do what he wanted too regardless of world opinion? And wasnt it the USA who said......"the world has spoken?" before we invavded, set up a puppet government, and occupied a foreign nation?

It seems as though bush has taken the same path as hitler, saddam and others, in the sense that t(he)y thought t(he)y could do what they wanted without concern for the rest of the worlds opinion or permission.

dai*ma San Francisco California USA

Very well said indeed, and I couldn't agree more.

However, some of us do read The Nation.

[daima]

Did I sound like I was debating politics? I was doing my job in here moderating....this issue has been covered in the past and political posts belong in here for a couple reasons. Number one.....like I stated, we have over 40 forums and over 70 sub-forums for a reason. Number two, there is "special" rules that apply in this forum concerning personal attacks that aren't allowed in other forums. If you can't live with the rules it WILL be dealt with.

I debate politics, NOT moderating. If you don't like what you see, choose option "B".

Also, throw another insult regarding this and you'll find out just how much I can censor. THIS IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE!!!

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

seems to me that a good monitor would of seen that one of their precious members made a mistake and put a post where it might not should of been and politely moved it where it should be and not threaten the post with censorship because you have a different political view of person who made mistake.

You seem to think its fine and dany to insult people just as long as your passive agressive with it, just because they feel different than you do.

I guess that im guilty of being more direct.
I had also noticed that in a post a while back that this person gets in trouble with the law and your suggestion was for him to "just cooperate with them(the cops)" after the person was pulled over, which was your right to your own opinion. I would never want to deny you of your opinion, or your feelings. They are yours. No one else can tell you how you feel.
But..........it seems to me that a person who is a monitor in a cannabis chat room would be advocating that if any of their members, or friends of their members ever get caught that you should NEVER coooperate with them, and that you shoule NEVER give up your rights.
If i were your boss and this was my chat room, i'd be asking you just who's side you are really on? and then i would question your ability to monitor this cannabis chat room in a fashion that represents the freedom we all seek to enjoy, and not just those you apporve of.

I do hope that you have a very nice day. My letter is out of concern, not out to cause your harm.

dai*ma:stoned: San Francisco California USA 94110

[daima]

Very well said indeed, and I couldn't agree more.

However, some of us do read The Nation.

the nation is where the question comes from.
i get it in the mail.

i also find it funny that p4b sounnds like bush. :the just the way it is!!! na naa naa naa naa na " do you think p4b is bush? yikes.

dai*ma San Francisco USA

[Psycho4Bud]

seems to me that a good monitor would of seen that one of their precious members made a mistake and put a post where it might not should of been and politely moved it where it should be and not threaten the post with censorship because you have a different political view of person who made mistake.

You seem to think its fine and dany to insult people just as long as your passive agressive with it, just because they feel different than you do.

I guess that im guilty of being more direct.
I had also noticed that in a post a while back that this person gets in trouble with the law and your suggestion was for him to "just cooperate with them(the cops)" after the person was pulled over, which was your right to your own opinion. I would never want to deny you of your opinion, or your feelings. They are yours. No one else can tell you how you feel.
But..........it seems to me that a person who is a monitor in a cannabis chat room would be advocating that if any of their members, or friends of their members ever get caught that you should NEVER coooperate with them, and that you shoule NEVER give up your rights.
If i were your boss and this was my chat room, i'd be asking you just who's side you are really on? and then i would question your ability to monitor this cannabis chat room in a fashion that represents the freedom we all seek to enjoy, and not just those you apporve of.

I do hope that you have a very nice day. My letter is out of concern, not out to cause your harm.

dai*ma:stoned: San Francisco California USA 94110

I made my position on this VERY clear and WILL NOT put up with your condensending bullshit for the rest of the day regarding it. YOU were warned but elected the road your now on. See ya in 7!

LIKE I HAVE STATED! I don't give a rats ass what political side of the fence a person is on.....Political threads go in politics. Let Bong30 or Torog post something in the lounge and the results would be EXACTLY the same!

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[40oz]

I think im going to DC saturday to protest the war. Hopefully it will be sweet. I want to make a sign like the one memebers avatar that has a picture of Bush's face with the words Terrorist written above it.