is it democracy when.....

[daima]

World opinion is against the U.S. escalation in Iraq. The American people are against it. The Congress is against it. The Iraqi people are against it.
The Iraqi government is against it.

Can a single 'man" force a nation to fight a war it does not want to fight, expand a war it does not want to expand ? If he can, is that nation any longer a democracy in any meaningful sense ?
Didnt Saddam think he could do what he wanted too regardless of world opinion? And wasnt it the USA who said......"the world has spoken?" before we invavded, set up a puppet government, and occupied a foreign nation?

It seems as though bush has taken the same path as hitler, saddam and others, in the sense that t(he)y thought t(he)y could do what they wanted without concern for the rest of the worlds opinion or permission.

dai*ma San Francisco California USA

daima Reviewed by daima on 01-26-2007. is it democracy when..... World opinion is against the U.S. escalation in Iraq. The American people are against it. The Congress is against it. The Iraqi people are against it. The Iraqi government is against it. Can a single 'man" force a nation to fight a war it does not want to fight, expand a war it does not want to expand ? If he can, is that nation any longer a democracy in any meaningful sense ? Didnt Saddam think he could do what he wanted too regardless of world opinion? And wasnt it the USA who Rating: 5

[BobBong]

Well said.

[benagain]

Very sad and pretty true. The real problem is that about half of the country was behind the idea of the war. You know why? Bush was preying on peoples fear of terrorists and made people feel like the war would prevent another 9/11. Now people are realizing that he was full of it, and no one seems to be happy with the administration at the moment. I hope it's one of those history lessons that we can learn from now and not 30 years from now in a history book.

[crudemood]

Now, they are realizing bush was lying?
I could have told you he was lying from the start..
When will people learn, I have no patience for this.

[mfitzp]

I think the creepiest thing about bush is bohemian grove and skull and bones shit makes you wonder lol

[Psycho4Bud]

World opinion is against the U.S. escalation in Iraq. The American people are against it. The Congress is against it. The Iraqi people are against it.
The Iraqi government is against it.

Can a single 'man" force a nation to fight a war it does not want to fight, expand a war it does not want to expand ? If he can, is that nation any longer a democracy in any meaningful sense ?
Didnt Saddam think he could do what he wanted too regardless of world opinion? And wasnt it the USA who said......"the world has spoken?" before we invavded, set up a puppet government, and occupied a foreign nation?

It seems as though bush has taken the same path as hitler, saddam and others, in the sense that t(he)y thought t(he)y could do what they wanted without concern for the rest of the worlds opinion or permission.

dai*ma San Francisco California USA

Once again alot of blah, blah, blah with NO supporting facts.

The Iraqi people and government would like us out sooner than later but also realize that at this point, it would result in complete meltdown of the country. Congress realizes this also.........If you would have watched the state of the union speach both sides stood and applauded when it was stated that this war MUST be won.

So you consider 12 million people out of 18 milliion going out to vote, risking their lives in the process a puppet government? UNREAL!

By the way daima.......this is political and I think you just may be intelligent enough to have figured that out. In the future when you decide to post this type of agenda in the lounge it will be deleted. There is a reason why we have 40 different forums with over 70 different sub-forums.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Zimzum]

Bush: 'I'm the decision-maker' in Iraq troops

Bush is supposed to be a puppet for and by the people. When he chooses to not listen to the majority, he destroys the true sense of democracy. The man needs to stop cherry picking what laws, national and/or international, he wants to follow. Bush and Amadidajad(sp) have both shown they will not listen to there own governments.

What will it take to get this man to listen to us if congress keeps passing laws without teeth? Riots like they had recently in France?

[daima]

Once again alot of blah, blah, blah with NO supporting facts.

The Iraqi people and government would like us out sooner than later but also realize that at this point, it would result in complete meltdown of the country. Congress realizes this also.........If you would have watched the state of the union speach both sides stood and applauded when it was stated that this war MUST be won.

So you consider 12 million people out of 18 milliion going out to vote, risking their lives in the process a puppet government? UNREAL!

By the way daima.......this is political and I think you just may be intelligent enough to have figured that out. In the future when you decide to post this type of agenda in the lounge it will be deleted. There is a reason why we have 40 different forums with over 70 different sub-forums.

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

an agenda?
lmao
yeah, what an aweful agenda to have , eh, peace? lmao
80% of iraqis dont want us there (fox news, cnn, msnbc, bbc, iraqi news, report)
the usa congress now opposes it.
many republican now oppose it
the world opposes it.
How did this become "my agenda"?

does p4b feel cornered so he lashes out with threats of censorship because of a pretty basic question he doesnt like?
I will tell you this...
for a person who has to hide smoking a plant from a government he has a crush on, you seem silly in your remarks and suggestions.
What is it in my post that outrages you to the point you threaten to ease it?
you keep that up and the only people you will find in the forum are those who are willing to kiss your ass, and that doesnt look like many.
Now go inflate your gw blow up doll and release some of that stress.
whisper in its ear, i love you". That should make you both feel special.

dai*ma:stoned: San Francisco California USA
o, yeah,
you have a good one too

[Psycho4Bud]

an agenda?
lmao
yeah, what an aweful agenda to have , eh, peace? lmao
80% of iraqis dont want us there (fox news, cnn, msnbc, bbc, iraqi news, report)
the usa congress now opposes it.
many republican now oppose it
the world opposes it.
How did this become "my agenda"?

does p4b feel cornered so he lashes out with threats of censorship because of a pretty basic question he doesnt like?
I will tell you this...
for a person who has to hide smoking a plant from a government he has a crush on, you seem silly in your remarks and suggestions.
What is it in my post that outrages you to the point you threaten to ease it?
you keep that up and the only people you will find in the forum are those who are willing to kiss your ass, and that doesnt look like many.
Now go inflate your gw blow up doll and release some of that stress.
whisper in its ear, i love you". That should make you both feel special.

dai*ma:stoned: San Francisco California USA
o, yeah,
you have a good one too

Did I sound like I was debating politics? I was doing my job in here moderating....this issue has been covered in the past and political posts belong in here for a couple reasons. Number one.....like I stated, we have over 40 forums and over 70 sub-forums for a reason. Number two, there is "special" rules that apply in this forum concerning personal attacks that aren't allowed in other forums. If you can't live with the rules it WILL be dealt with.

I debate politics, NOT moderating. If you don't like what you see, choose option "B".

Also, throw another insult regarding this and you'll find out just how much I can censor. THIS IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE!!!

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Zimzum]

Also, throw another insult regarding this and you'll find out just how much I can censor. THIS IS NOT UP FOR DEBATE!!!

OT sorry, but..

While I understand the personal attacks part of the rules. Diama's comments really didn't seem any worse then what Bong30 has been doing in almost all his replies. Can I not say that "Dumb lib" is a personal insult? And you yourself have said "If you can't take the heat, get out of the politics forum."