Quote Originally Posted by mrdevious
So where's your evidence that god was the initial catylist for existence? Or are you just taking the easiest answer and accepting it because you can't think of a better one? The core problem of god is that people just fill him in where we don't have the answers yet. Can't explain it? then god must have done it!

There's another theory that I read in a quantum physics book, that suggests the problem of "something" coming out of "nothing" lies in the illusion that something and nothing are distinctly different things. All matter, when you break it down small enough, eventually ends up at subatomic particles that exist only as force fields, with no physical substance to them. It is theorized that these tiny areas of force are a piece of the fabric of reality itself.
You know how gravity is theorized to be a bending in space-time? Well how exactly can you "bend" nothingness? The answer, according to many or our most prominant and sucessfull scientific minds, is that such a bending is possible because gravity what lies between somethingness and nothingness. Matter and energy are, essentially, the compacted trillions of subatomic forcefields which are comprised of nothing but space-time itself. The rest of the universe, that which we call "nothing", is the areas of space-time which have not developed these little forcefields that collect together through gravitation. How these little forcefields arise in the first place I couldn't tell you, but Stephen Hawking had a great theory on how that would be possible with milisecond creation and obliteration of matter and anti-matter particles.

Is this theory correct? It's the best one we have so far, maybe it is and maybe it isn't. But as you can see, just because god is the only one you can think of doesn't make it the correct response be default.
I know their is on proof beyond emtion and love and life or anthing just being here. That is all I have to prove god is real and i don't mean god by the traditonal meaning i simply mean a force that is everything, did not creat but is. I am not taking the easy way out I have gave this years of thought and it is the only answer i can come up with. I am not puting god in by default but by understanding anything exsit at all and that life exist and that LOVE exist I have to say something loves us something is us something connects us some much that willing some one to better health makes them a little better or speeds up their recovery. Speaking in toungs, i did when i was 8, is exticy and unfakeable. The thing I remeber most about that experience is after hours of praying and then receving the holy ghost i went to micy Ds' and on the way i was talking to my mom and in mid sentence i started to speak in toungs agine , it was uncountralable and gave me joy beyound belife with every word. That is my proof, maybe if you reach for god, god will give you proof and god will if you wont it.