Quote Originally Posted by PatrickHenry
I agree with you. I have a funny feeling about Viet Nam because I've visited the country in the past year and have witnessed personally the great strides made there. We were so afraid of losing Viet Nam to communism but it's slowly changing into a capitalist/democratic country as state run functions are privatized. As cliche as it is, future battles are for "hearts and minds."
This is so true. The thing about Vietnam, and what pretty much guaranteed our defeat, is that a huge portion of "the enemy" wasn't fighting for communism, they were simply fighting against yet another foreign power trying to screw with them.

I can't help but wonder how much of the same thing is happening in Iraq. What does Bush expect? That the "enemy", whoever that is, will simply wave a white flag and give up? No likely. The longer we keep fucking the place up, the longer they'll keep fighting and the more people will go over to their side.

What we need now is not more troops but more dialogue. P4B says that "Sadrs group wants a government set up like Iran. The Bathists want the good ol' days of Sunni's first fuck the Kurds and Shiites. Al-Quada just wants a place to call home." Well, maybe so, but is that what it will take to have peace and stabilize the country? Has anyone in our government extended an olive branch and said "hey guys, what's it gonna take?" . No, our fucking cowboy of a leader is to obsessed with killing the bad guys? Bush doesn't have a clue and is just grasping at straws as the situation increasingly slips through his fingers. It's no wonder that the democrats, and an increasinly large amount of his own party, don't have any confidence in his "plan".