My theory why god doesn't exist

[smoke it]

God can't be proven, and he can't be disproven. It's impossible. It's purely down to personal preference. Simple as that.

^^^^this sums it up. thats it.

[Stoner Shadow Wolf]

god lives with santa claus and their son and daughter the easter bunny and tooth fairy.

they all exist in the same place: our mindscapes.

[Polymirize]

You completely missed the point :thumbsup: Your argument was hilarious though, good effort.

I think you completely missed his point.

I'm sure you're free to think whatever you want about God, the toothfairy, aliens, justice, or santa claus.
But the argument sucks. It can supposedly justify anything, which means its worthless as an argument goes. Its been around forever because most people can't apply the most simple forms of logic to deduce this fact and therefore think they're really onto something.

I agree with MrD about the argument. You can think whatever you want about metaphysical entities, I don't know anything about any of those. I do know about arguments, and logic, and the rules of inference however; and in this case, you're clearly wrong. That is in fact a terrible argument.

[mrdevious]

You completely missed the point :thumbsup: Your argument was hilarious though, good effort.

Yep, it's easier to call an argument "hilarious" than actually counter it. Though I still still didn't miss the point, I just chose one of the two points you made:

It's an old classic because it's a bloody good argument. No one can disprove it.

This, right here, is what prompted my response. It's a terrible argument and I made my case against it, and in the true creationist spirit you dismissed it and moved on without another thought. Considering you said "it's a bloody good argument" in direct response to my description of it, the counter-argument is perfectly relavent.

Basically it comes down to one fact; If God exists for one person, then he exists for that person. And if God does not exist for another person, then he does not exist for that person.

God can't be proven, and he can't be disproven. It's impossible. It's purely down to personal preference. Simple as that.

Yes yes, "personal truths". That is the point you mistakenly thought I "missed", but it's an irrelevant one nontheless since such logic gives credence to every delusional schizophrenic in a mental institution. Of course isn't that the most powerfull creationist tool, to declare that just believing something strongly enough makes it a "truth" no matter what it is, no matter what logic it's based on. But I'll let Polymerizes well-constructed argument take it from there.

[harris7]

Personally i need a reason for a belief. Otherwise i would belief there was a teacup orbiting the sun, that jellyfish and so many other things.

United if you want to believe god exists without any reason, well ok. But you wont believe a jellyfish is playing music from a flue around mars, then your selecting your beliefs based on something.
I think your selecting the ones that make you feel good, like god. If a jellyfish made you feel good would you believe in it.

[divestoned]

god is for weak minded followers afraid of they're own mortality.

[Polymirize]

god is for weak minded followers afraid of they're own mortality.

So are ad hominem arguments like that one...

[Cautios]

Just wanted to say that maybe you are looking at "God" from the wrong point of view. Perhaps "God" is not an physical incarnation, or even a spectral incarnation. Perhaps "God" just is. People can perform scientific studies to prove anything. Even that you shit ice-cream.

[Jack the Tripper]

throughout the past the christian church has proven themselves to be corrupt and selfish.

There has never been any evidence that god was real except from individuals saying so.

How can you blindly worship somebody who doesn't exist? There does not need to be a higher being for life to exist, it's a complex series of chemical reactions over trillions and quadrillions of years. I'm sorry but I just see people who believe in "god" as ignorant people who are afraid of change.

I've singled out the three parts of your post that I find most ludicrous.

The first one is off topic. You start out by saying you don't belive in God. Fair enough. Then, all of a sudden you start bashing Christianity. Where did that come from? What makes you think that Christianity is synnonymous with believing in God? I believe in God, and I'm not Christian. I'm not even religious. Despite that, there are many more monotheistic religions than just Christianity. What about Judaism, or Hinduism? There's a big difference between corruption in Christianity and God not existing.

On to your next bit. "There has never been any evidence that god was real except from individuals saying so." ... Are you suggesting that there IS evidence saying God DOES NOT exist? You contradict yourself. You ask people not to use the argument "you can't prove he doesn't exist" but you use the exact inverse of that yourself.

Now, the last bit... and wow. I don't want to drag on, so I'll try to keep this simple: whats more likely? "a complex series of chemical reactions over trillions and quadrillions of years", or a higher power Creating life? Are you saying you think that the birth of the human race was a coincidence? Because thats a very very complex coincidence.

Lastly... you call people who believe in God ignorant. How so? It's by far the most logical explanation for the existence of everything. So ask yourself this; which of the following is the easy route? To believe that you yourself are the be-all and the end-all, or that someone else is? Believing in God requires an open mind, but you'd prefer to claim that nonspecific scientific evidence (of which there is none) makes you correct.

Your warning about getting started on scientology amused me. Since your first post was pretty flimsy, maybe you should.

[murkem]

science only explains gods creation. if you take god out of the creation theory then u have the scientific theory and if you put god in the scientific theory then you have the creation theory. the bible is made up of people born and dead at differrent times talking about the same things and most never met each other. the books in the bible werent written in the same year or all at once its composed of different authors that never met each other and some how leads to the same begining and conclusion through the book. some authors made prophecies of events that wouldnt happen till well after they were dead and gone. the death of kings the invasions of lands slavery that couldnt have been predicted except by someone with an outlook on the future. all of these predictions have came true and are verified by the same history books you were taught out of in school, and some that are as of now unfolding. you cant disprove something you have no knowledge of, real knowledge, not being religious or claiming a faith but the study of where and how these stories came about and if they have validity through other historical records.if you know all about one side of the argument but know nothing of the other nothing u say makes any sense because all u know is what you know. a baseball coach cant teach a soccer player how to kick better and vise versa, but if he has a backround in soccer and baseball his two cents would be worth something of value. everything is woven together somehow in ways we cant understand we can only show how there woven not who wove it or why it just is. thats why there are religons, people that have experienced for themselves some kind of order and feel that there must be something more. regardless if it be buddah god or whoever, there is no begining and no end it just is and gos on.