Quote Originally Posted by Pipe Dreams
Birdgirl, I respect your opinion, but you are totally wrong. ALOT (dont take the world lightly for this topic) ALOT of girls now days love the dick, and guys are more than happy to give it to them. I dont know the deal is, but its not like were making them drink and put out. They have the ability to say no just like everyone else.
Trust me. I'm not wrong. You're just not old or smart enough yet to know that.

I know there are plenty of girls who love "the dick," as you put it. And that's perfectly fine. It's also perfectly fine for them to get drunk. Some of you guys are so clueless here that you think this is a simply a discussion about whether or not women like sex or whether or not I approve of young people making choices to have sex when and how they want to. It's much more complicated than that and, again, I'm really pointing the finger at alcohol.

The research will back me up on this, Pipe Dreams. Combining a trashed girl and a horny young man frequently ends up with a girl who later fully admits she wasn't really capable of making that decision or saying no like she would have if she'd been sober. Is that still her responsibility and her choice? Yes, it is. She's the one who got drunk and put herself into that situation. But the statistics will bear me out here. Ask any campus crisis center. Any rape crisis center. Any young women who've been in these situations. For that matter, talk to psychologists and psychiatrists who treat college-aged people or read some books about the heavy role alcohol plays in what college-aged girls later term "regrettable sexual activity." This is a huge problem on college campuses. And if you think women who're falling-down drunk are in a position to accurately judge whether or not they want to "put out," then you're either very desperate, very in denial, or very dumb and frighteningly callous. By the way "a lot" is two words, not one.