School

[geonagual]

This is important...

Realize that everybody is afraid of each other
and nobody wants to look bad, everyone wants to look good.

[ValkyrieAg]

In the US, you can't even get by without ~20k/year. I personally use about 15k/year but I budget and I am still in college....and I still don't get everything I need and I also live in an area with a *low* cost of living.

A decent pay rate wo/degree in the US is about 12/hr. Thats medicore work. Shoveling shit gets you about 6/hr. That is about 13k/yr and 26k/yr respectively. Not great.

Not only does a degree help you earn a higher salary, but it puts you in a position to get full insurance for you and your family. $$$

So yeah, if a person is all Bill Gates-smart-don't-need-no-stupid-college.....then yeah, all a degree does is help you get a leg up.

If you are more like me, more common sense than brains, get your ass to college, get a degree and thank yourself for it in the end. With loans nowadays, *anyone* can go to college if they wanted. Besides, college is fuckin' awesome.

[wayoftheleaf]

I notice the aura of assholeness with most people......

I don't like people who try to show up others, and talk about themselves like they are a gift from god.

It's not just school. It's the same way at work sites and such. Everywhere.....

But just like a cool breeze, march to the beat of your own drum. Be nice to everyone

But I am a gift from god, I am one of those people he must surly have shaped the mind of with his own hand.

but seriously, school sucks, I am tired of learning things that I know better than my teachers. This new school I am going to must think we are all mentally handicapped. I am learning geometry that I learned in algebra one.

Then again my teacher taught us most of the geometry book in algebra one because we got done early.

but still.

[ValkyrieAg]

Math is my worst skill. However, I have to stand up for Geometry. I feel it is the only high level math that a person will ever use.

Plus, it has pictures! You can visualize.....visualize......visualize....:rastasm oke:

[LIP]

Yo,

Its a bad idea to star out a reply "You have no idea what your talking about", when that very statement applies to you. It has been well documented that those with a HS (College in UK) diploma make more then someone without one. Those with a (US) College degree make more then those with only a (US) HS diploma. Sure there are a few exceptions, there always are; that is not the point. I am happy you have money to buy food, good job! However the fact of the matter is, as a whole, the higher level of education you gain the more cash you will have. Sorry I had to be the one to break it to you.

Maybe you would have learned this if you stayed in school.

Well im so glad im an exception.

Qualification mean nothing. It's a bit of paper.

You have two people waiting for a job. One has all the qualifications in the world, the other [me] has absolutly none.

The guy with the qualifications cant fix an engine, the guy without the qualifications can. Who do they hire? Me.

If you want something enough, qualifications dont come into it. You dont need them to get a job, you need to WANT the job, and do everything to can to get it.

[ValkyrieAg]

Well im so glad im an exception.

Qualification mean nothing. It's a bit of paper.

You have two people waiting for a job. One has all the qualifications in the world, the other [me] has absolutly none.

The guy with the qualifications cant fix an engine, the guy without the qualifications can. Who do they hire? Me.

If you want something enough, qualifications dont come into it. You dont need them to get a job, you need to WANT the job, and do everything to can to get it.

Sorry. I think you got this wrong. If you are applying for a job and it is between you and another person. If he can't fix an engine....then he doesn't have qualifications.

I know people with their little A+ certs and all that bullshit and they can't even config a router.

If it were me and you, I could fix an engine....I have a degree. I'll get the job.

[LIP]

Sorry. I think you got this wrong. If you are applying for a job and it is between you and another person. If he can't fix an engine....then he doesn't have qualifications.

I know people with their little A+ certs and all that bullshit and they can't even config a router.

If it were me and you, I could fix an engine....I have a degree. I'll get the job.

Well, that depends what company were "applying" for.

If it's a small company they'd actually hire me as they could pay me less.

Concidering i've been working for years, for the same company, i know how it works. It may be differnt in america, thanks god im never going to have to find out.

And you'd be surprised how many people i've met with all these qualifications from doing tests on paper, but when they come face to face with a engine they dont know the first thing about it.

[ValkyrieAg]

Oh no, I totally agree. I know my way around an internal combustion engine just as good as the next person and know how it is when someone talks about something they either know nothing about or think they know.

Just because you have the qualifications/certifications doesn't mean it will get you a job. But a degree/certification is usually a tie breaker.

Alot of jobs here in the US, if you don't have a degree, don't bother. But then again its always about who you know.

My friend just got a job literally 30 feet from his house selling oilfield equipment for 57k/yr. No he doesn't have a petroleum degree, but he is qualified (learned everything from his father) and the job was offered to him. If the job wasn't offered and he didn't know the owner of the company and he came to him with his lame ass HS Diploma and degree, he would be laughed right out of the room.

[LIP]

Oh no, I totally agree. I know my way around an internal combustion engine just as good as the next person and know how it is when someone talks about something they either know nothing about or think they know.

Just because you have the qualifications/certifications doesn't mean it will get you a job. But a degree/certification is usually a tie breaker.

Alot of jobs here in the US, if you don't have a degree, don't bother. But then again its always about who you know.

My friend just got a job literally 30 feet from his house selling oilfield equipment for 57k/yr. No he doesn't have a petroleum degree, but he is qualified (learned everything from his father) and the job was offered to him. If the job wasn't offered and he didn't know the owner of the company and he came to him with his lame ass HS Diploma and degree, he would be laughed right out of the room.

That's how i got my job. I already knew the owners of the boat yard i work for now, they knew me before i was born lol, i was jut a bump. So, they've seen me grow up. I've grown up knowing them. So all these years later im working for em. I mean, i wanted to do marine engineering since i was about 6, and i was so determined, i just went hell for leather for it and got it. Yes, i know im lucky, but it's not impossible.

I know qualifications help, lol, it's obvious rofl, but they're not the most important thing. The most important thing is that you can show them you can do the job to a profesional level, know everything about what your working with, can do it quickly and effeicently and want to do it.

[PigSnout]

Well, that depends what company were "applying" for.

If it's a small company they'd actually hire me as they could pay me less.

Or get a degree, go to another company and make more money. That's the scenario. Companies don't hold out for the one person who knows alot but works for less. If that's you, then you've undersold yourself.

Concidering i've been working for years, for the same company, i know how it works. It may be differnt in america, thanks god im never going to have to find out.

But you dont know how it works.
It's not about you. lol
As stated in another post It's a known fact that a college degree brings in the cash period. It's no different in America. To argue otherwise is plain silly.
Another thing college does for you, broadens your horizons. Always good to have knowledge in 2 different fields.

And you'd be surprised how many people i've met with all these qualifications from doing tests on paper, but when they come face to face with a engine they dont know the first thing about it.

This sounds like you're talking about someone from a trade school. lol
Alot different than college. Who learns about engines on paper but doesn't get their hands on them? Sounds like a pretty crummy school system in your area. Glad I'll never find out.