Quote Originally Posted by Bong30
Yeah fuck the man...dont register.....

just think you could have all your little lefty friends over, and you could chant Death to the USA, and Burn that mother fucker.....do it.

Calm down there bong, just because someone doesnt' want to be in the army or agree with the draft doesn't mean he's an extreme leftist flag burner communist. I know you don't agree with socialism or most things left, but these people aren't maliciously out to destroy us. I'm just wondering, I remember you said that you had some professor who gave some really convincing arguments that all things socialist and left are wrong etc etc.... but did you have anybody of equal conviction giving arguments for it? I've always believed you can't truly know an argument is right unless you look for a counter argument and hear it out too (with real consideration).

You probably wouldn't believe me, but I know the living standards here in Canada are higher for the middle class than in the states (overall), and there's considerably less of a rich/poor economic gap. The only arguments I've heard against socialism from you suggest that ALL use of socialism has to be in the most extreme, often communist terms. Your argument about the "profit motive" mainly applies to communism, and you're using it against socialism which has no such extremes of flat-wages where it is used in sensible moderation, such as in Canada, Holland, Germany, and partially Sweden (Sweden gets a bit carried away), and more. Anybody can take an example to extremes, but in reality it's the subtly necessary components of many societies that account for good living conditions and services. I'm a student and a broke one at that (can't work physically anyway), and I just got surgery on my nose so I was able to breath through it for the first time in my life..... and walked away with no bill. I never would have been able to pay that without our socialist medical system, just like my family wouldn't have been able to pay for my sisters many necessary surgeries, and my younger brother's psychiatric care. It's at least nice to know the guy on the bottom can get some help getting education and healthcare and a chance to get to the top.
And yes, I know our medical system has some major problems (so does America's, but the problems are different), but that's the result of not taking a more sensible partial socilist approach of government funded hospitals that are free, with the option of privitized hospitals for those who can pay. They've made good use of such a system in a few European countries and they have the top medical systems in the world.
mrdevious Reviewed by mrdevious on . fuck the man i just got a draft sign up card, doesnt mean that im bein drafted but i could be. i dont find any reason to fight in a war i dont belive in. Rating: 5