Just me, or was this guy an asshole? (sort of long)

[thcbongman]

sometimes, it is right to hurt someone.
i believe that this is on of those ituations, violence doesnt solve everything but this guy sounds like he needed a good ass kicking... he might have never had one because people just walk away and ignore him.

Let someone else do it.

All violence does is essentially put mud on your face. People will never look at you the same way again. You'd be kicking a guy's ass who has more problems than you do. Feel good about how you have less problems, rather than expressing it in rage.

[hewhispers]

thcbongman

Great point!

Once you show people that 'violence' is your fall back option, you are looked at as a hot head, and that you have lowered yourself even LOWER than the guy who said stupid shit.

[MastaChronic]

thcbongman

Great point!

Once you show people that 'violence' is your fall back option, you are looked at as a hot head, and that you have lowered yourself even LOWER than the guy who said stupid shit.

not at all, you look at this as if it were the only consequence of a persons actions when in fact it isnt at all. there are many, for instance, the people that know about this might figure that your the kind of person that stands up for his family and doesnt let people badmouth them and disrespect them.
lets face it, this fool needs a good ass kicking because its probably the only way hes going to learn, some people are just like that....um...idiots i think would be the term for it.

btw, what is wrong with being a hot head? you look down upon violence as if its some sort of terrible thing when in fact its not at all. violence is a wonderful thing, it solves all kinds of problems.
why the extreme pacifism? you should know that extremes never work out.

Let someone else do it.

All violence does is essentially put mud on your face. People will never look at you the same way again. You'd be kicking a guy's ass who has more problems than you do. Feel good about how you have less problems, rather than expressing it in rage.

i might come from a different world than yours, but...i believe that if you want something done you have to do it yourself.

fucking extreme pacifists, willing to roll over and let people do whatever the hell they want....damn babyboomer children, damn babyboomers...damn it all, if these are the kinds of people that will be running the country some day then im getting the hell out.

[hewhispers]

not at all, you look at this as if it were the only consequence of a persons actions when in fact it isnt at all. there are many, for instance, the people that know about this might figure that your the kind of person that stands up for his family and doesnt let people badmouth them and disrespect them.

lets face it, this fool needs a good ass kicking because its probably the only way hes going to learn, some people are just like that....um...idiots i think would be the term for it.

btw, what is wrong with being a hot head? you look down upon violence as if its some sort of terrible thing when in fact its not at all. violence is a wonderful thing, it solves all kinds of problems.
why the extreme pacifism? you should know that extremes never work out.

What is this "stand up for your family"? What are you standing up for?
This might be an age thing but where are you that it gets to the point that someone is looking to goad you about your family.

What is it, "I f*cked your sister"? or some childish crap like that?

You and I know that they are saying that, not because it is true, but because they want to get under your skin. They probably dont even know your family. They simply want you to react and they know they can get a rise out of you.

You, my friend, are being manipulated. Dont you see that yet?

And it is not about me being a pacifist...its about avoiding getting into that position to begin with.

No good, in the end, comes from violence. None. Maybe it feels good nd I get that, but in the end...it solves nothing.

Children that are raised in violent homes grow up to duplicate that violence in their own homes when they have their won children because it is what they have learned from their parents.

Its not a good tool. It may be effective at that moment, but in the long run has a long-reaching negative impact.

It took me years to 'unlearn' the "lessons" my parents taught me as a child. I resent them always for that.

And which world you want? 100% pacifists or 100% violent?
Hmmm.

[TheGreenFog]

violence is a wonderful thing, it solves all kinds of problems. why the extreme pacifism? you should know that extremes never work out.

Ok, now no one said 'roll over and let them do whatever they want.'

Let me put it this way, I'm most definitely not an extreme pacifist by any means. There are situations where I would kick someone's ass, and have done so.

But in this situation, from the way it was described, I would surely not recommend pulling a gun to someone and shooting at their feet. That, to me, sounds like extreme violence.

I'm not saying that all violence is unavoidable, and I most assuredly will not let someone push me or my family around, but just because someone is ignorant enough to say something rude or stupid (probably because they think it's funny), that doesn't necessarily mean I'm going to automatically put them in a wheelchair.

The way I see it...

If he said, "OH, yea, I remember your sister. Isn't she dead yet?"

I would have to say "What the f**k did you just say? I sure as hell hope you're kidding, cuz that's not funny to me."

Generally, in my experience, when you make swift, firm action (verbally), people tend to backtrack and apologize, or at least withdraw. Then you have won, they go into their shell, and there is no violence.

Now, had he continued to say rude and insulting comments, I would ask him to just leave completely, or we would have problems.

Then, sometimes, he pushes you, or continues his bullsh*tting, and then you knock him out. But that is far away from what happened here.

You say:

...fucking extreme pacifists, willing to roll over and let people do whatever the hell they want....damn babyboomer children, damn babyboomers...damn it all, if these are the kinds of people that will be running the country some day then im getting the hell out.

Well, I say...f*cking extreme violent wanna-be thugs always trying to start a fight where there doesn't need to be. Where is the peace? If these are the kinds of people that will be running the country someday, then I'm getting the hell out.


The Fog :rastasmoke:

[MastaChronic]

if i had to choose one extreme or the other
100% violent
violence is a thing of beauty.
im being manipulated because i would kick the shit of some dumbass for mouthing off?
i dont see your logic whatsoever, it seems to me like people wouldnt want their asses kicked.
humans are violent by nature, its why we are the top species on earth, not because we are the most intelligent (and if you think that then you havent read up on psychology) we are on top because we are the craziest most bloodthirsty things in the jungle. intelligence came afterwards

[thcbongman]

i might come from a different world than yours, but...i believe that if you want something done you have to do it yourself.

fucking extreme pacifists, willing to roll over and let people do whatever the hell they want....damn babyboomer children, damn babyboomers...damn it all, if these are the kinds of people that will be running the country some day then im getting the hell out.

How you perceive the world is different than mine, but we are in the same world.

I have a history of violence, and anger control. When I was younger, I use to think violence solved problems, and I would be feared and respected by others. It doesn't work that way. You could beat somebody senseless, but you know what? You can't shed what you done to another person. You can't change other people's perceptions of you. Once the act is done, you can't take it back, you have to live with it. Do you believe you can control the aftermath of violence? You can't.

Everytime you hit someone, you put mud on yourself, keeping the light within you to shine. Becoming angrier and more consumed, desensitized from what you have done. I can remember those nights when I looked in a mirror thinking of what a monster I was, and you grow to hate yourself.

The only time when violence is necessary is defending yourself. Even then, it's possible to subdue someone without smacking the shit out of them. Violence in the end doesn't solve anything and only consumes the eye of the beholder.

[MastaChronic]

Do you believe you can control the aftermath of violence? You can't.

and thats why its beautiful, violence is a product of chaos and chaos has to be one of the most beautiful, wonderful things in existence.
it is uncontrollable, primal and destructive and i love it, if nothing else in this world, i love this one thing.

[ValkyrieAg]

"Tell him how the cow ate the corn"
-translation-
"explain to him how 'it' is and how 'its' going to be"