My theory on infinite conprehension in measurement.

[wayoftheleaf]

lol billionfold you are awesome. you always make me laugh.

[notransfer]

being frozen in time means you would recieve, no matter how large and complex and layered, a single measurement of that moment, everything in space within that moment, the moment following would be different..concepts and understanding are relative to time...being frozen in a moment and being the whole that is moments are two different things...i suppose i went in a direction you weren't getting at in the first place

[notransfer]

i see what you might be saying in that one moment all over space contains every chance/measurement that is possible...so freezing in time theoretically is gaining understanding of everything all at once destroying linear time because all chances and existances would be covered...but i still look at it like there are things that will exist, just have not existed yet anywhere in space...evolution and chance viewed from a universal scale..thats why im stuck thinking knowledge of every measurement in a given moment is subject to being 'proven wrong' so to speak in any given moment to follow based on uncertainty and chance and energy flow and breaks in patterns..

...you're 15?!

[wayoftheleaf]

Yes I am fifteen


But doesnt the concept of all possible chance of every possible reality of time and understanding describe the tenth demension? Therefore showing that the being would have to be able to achieve an area of understanding far above our own that can only truly comprehend the 3rd demension?

[notransfer]

i think that understanding of all..may be a 'tenth' dimension thing (did you read that somewhere the 10th, why'd you say 10th instead of say 4th or 8th?)
i think the human mind has a ceiling and all beings have a ceiling of understanding its a drawback to being a being lol
if a being is naturally transcendental and thats the way they essentially Are, actions don't come into play in terms of moments so i see how this could be another dimension or an existance frozen and spread out over time..
lots of theory..fun to contemplate

[wayoftheleaf]

The third demension what we live in, the fourth dimension is time itself, the fifth is all possible outcomes around a single person's life, the sixth is all outcomes of everyones life the seventh.. blah.. blah... the tenth is all possible beginnings and endings and all the inbetween's. what you said defers to the tenth dimension.

[notransfer]

a being that is omniscient wouldnt be a being...it would be something indescribable like some .. force that everything exists in and exists in everything..what many people see god as.

[wayoftheleaf]

Lol i don't have anything to say.

[Polymirize]

his very first premise is that measurement is infinite which is not the case, there is a very real limit to what we can measure accurately or with any certainty.my argument about space applies equally to time seeing as how they are part of the same fabric. he then goes on saying if we know everything about a moment then we would be suspended in time. im saying that we can't know everything there is to know about a moment because of the uncertainty principle.

Ok. I agree that his premises are extremely flawed to start with. I accept the argument from quantum mechanics. I just think that by attempting to connect a system of measurement to the "real world", you need to follow him on his first couple steps, and logically, no you can disarm his entire argument before it draws its first breath.


And as for ten dimensions. Current string theory which postulates ten dimensions usually holds that the missing six rolled up and shrank to the size of the planck length. They're here, they're just to small to interact in any meaningful way (?). I think in appealing to multiple dimensions you're going a little far of the esoteric field.

[Stowned]

You see, I disagree and I'll tell you why I disagree. The concept of infinity is a man made system of measuring and it presupposes that this man made measurement is persistent in all planes of consciousness. It assumes that human mathematics and physics is constant everywhere in the Universe and this is simply not true.

I refuse to accept that the absolute knowledge and truths of the universe is encompassed in humanities under-evolved and primitive systems.

I believe that the universe is comprised of a vast amount of systems of measurement and it has a multitude of laws and physics all with many many interpretations of infinity, even superior versions.

So you see, this concept of infinity is an arrogant assumption of measurement. Infinity does not exist outside of the human perception.

Our reality is perceived through an unfathomable amount of different eyes of every conceivable intelligences. See our universe is ever-conditional and ever-evolving. A singularity is never constant and absolute in this reality.

What ever you think is 'truth', is only just a superficial truth that is governed by the limitations of your perception. All truth is temporary, Truth is static and evolves and manifests in many different consistencies.

We know nothing and will never know the absolute. This I am greatly certain of.