the bands gone now.. they broke up... and personally, i liked their third album alot... it was smoother, and more mellow/calm without losing that rock edge... it was a good album but everyone dogs them becasue it's not the original style they started from... i mean just picture you heard that album before you knew any of their other work... if anything they got 'better'... i still love both the self titled and iowa better.. (i wasn't too much for mate feed kill repeat) but it was a good album.. just a completely diffrent sytle... everyone was expecting the usual and they tried something new.