first time grower and im stumped

**latewood** · 01-17-2007, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by barry buds

isnt lowrider a sativa. my plant is showing indica gene's with its wide short leaves.

ruderalis...I think I spelled that right.

Sativa do not respond as quickly to flowering photoperiod, and ruderalis is what was used to breed lowryders by crossing ruderalis with sativ' and indica'...

Why would you think that a auto-flowering "ditchweed" (ruderalis) would be the same as the long vegging, slow flowering of a sativ'?

that is the problem around here sometimes...people start seeds before they have read the proper amount of grow info.

This is why I am not a big fan of copy/pasting long articles from books to the forums. In my experience most don't read them, finding them too overwhelming. New growers need to read up on cultivation, but about 90% do not, and that is why we have the forum. Sorry aobut the rant, but I can't believe some of the un-educated guesses that members post, when they don't know.

Zandor taught me something early on...If you look at a post and the members are on the right track...let it go. NO need to post. If members have got it right, but have 2-3 other "sketchy" answers, then clarify the correct posting. Then htere are the cases of all the newbs gathering and spreding 1/2 truths aobut growing, and that is when we MOds stick our big NOse in.

Read up on your favorite plant if you plan on continuing to grow it. KNow what you are doing...It will save you and everyone invlolved in teaching you alot of time and misunderstanding. Have a great day LW

latewood Reviewed by latewood on 01-17-2007. first time grower and im stumped hello i am a first time grower and i have a question. i have an indica growing in my closet, it has been growing for about 3 weeks. it is about 120mm tall and it has 3 female pistils on it. is it normal for the sex to be showing this early. can anyone give ma an answer why hello Rating: 5

**barry buds** · 01-17-2007, 11:50 PM

Originally Posted by latewood

ruderalis...I think I spelled that right.

Sativa do not respond as quickly to flowering photoperiod, and ruderalis is what was used to breed lowryders by crossing ruderalis with sativ' and indica'...

Why would you think that a auto-flowering "ditchweed" (ruderalis) would be the same as the long vegging, slow flowering of a sativ'?

that is the problem around here sometimes...people start seeds before they have read the proper amount of grow info.

This is why I am not a big fan of copy/pasting long articles from books to the forums. In my experience most don't read them, finding them too overwhelming. New growers need to read up on cultivation, but about 90% do not, and that is why we have the forum. Sorry aobut the rant, but I can't believe some of the un-educated guesses that members post, when they don't know.

Zandor taught me something early on...If you look at a post and the members are on the right track...let it go. NO need to post. If members have got it right, but have 2-3 other "sketchy" answers, then clarify the correct posting. Then htere are the cases of all the newbs gathering and spreding 1/2 truths aobut growing, and that is when we MOds stick our big NOse in.

Read up on your favorite plant if you plan on continuing to grow it. KNow what you are doing...It will save you and everyone invlolved in teaching you alot of time and misunderstanding. Have a great day LW

i hope you are not complaining about me becouse i dont think i have done anything wrong. i have stated that i am a first time grower. i have read up on weed and their reaction to different light. that is why i have about 81 watts of flourecent light on them. and as i stated also is that i am growing a bag seed that came from my brother, so i have no idea what i am growing. the only thing i know is that indica's have wide leaves and sativas have long skinny leaves. i never new their was a 3rd species of weed called ruderalis. all i have been doing is asking questions and posting pics.

**barry buds** · 01-17-2007, 11:56 PM

the fert that i am using dont have any potassium. now i know why my plant has'nt been growing really tall like everyone elses, my fert has 24% nitrogen, 8% phosphate, and 16% soluble potash. everyone else recomends to use a fert with 20-20-20. oh and mine has EDTA(chelating agent)(minimum) 1.2% is that good or bad. and thanks latewood for clarifing that i need high potassium not phosphate.

**barry buds** · 01-18-2007, 12:09 AM

here are some new pics i took today. since i changed the light to 12\12 and she has recovered from being topped in only 4 days and added 3 more flouros she has grown about 4 inches, and the new tips are growing about 1 inch a day.[attachment=o113440]

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**barry buds** · 01-18-2007, 12:13 AM

haha my fience just came in and pointed to me that i have half her face in the top pic. she gave me a smack

**barry buds** · 01-18-2007, 12:14 AM

i will post the actual pic so you can see my beautiful fience.

**barry buds** · 01-18-2007, 12:19 AM

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**brookerosebud** · 01-18-2007, 12:37 AM

Originally Posted by barry buds

the fert that i am using dont have any potassium. now i know why my plant has'nt been growing really tall like everyone elses, my fert has 24% nitrogen, 8% phosphate, and 16% soluble potash. everyone else recomends to use a fert with 20-20-20. oh and mine has EDTA(chelating agent)(minimum) 1.2% is that good or bad. and thanks latewood for clarifing that i need high potassium not phosphate.

you are using the wrong ferts. miracle gro right? wrong stuff, get some green light super bloom, or any other super phosphate... you want lots of phos in flower, with little nitrogen...

GET SOME FLOWER FERTS...and add a tbs of molasses per gl...

love, brooke

**barry buds** · 01-18-2007, 12:44 AM

ok hold on people i am getting confused. i have a moderator telling me that i need potassium not phosphate. everyone else is telling me to use high phosphate not potassium. who is right and who is wrong. i need an answer becouse i am flowering as you can see from the pics.

**brookerosebud** · 01-18-2007, 12:51 AM

i swear to god, babe, you need a high phosphate fert for flower. pot ash is helpful, but a high phos fert will make your buds gro super huge... there's a realy good article in kp's cannabis college, but i don't know where the thread is, and i'm too stoned to search. trust me...

green light's super bloom 12-55-6... or maybe it's 12-55-12 can't remember, but it is the best flower product i've used in the last 10 years...

love, brooke

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