More death is not the answer.

[Bong30]

Most of the people in this country are brain washed by the left leaning media....

thats why?

what if they reported 10% more good news.....

they dont, so average joe believe what the media says.....

3000 dead

3001 dead

3002 dead


what if it was 3000 insurgents dead

3001 dead

3002 dead

10 school open

30 million voted

new water sytem

cell phones have gone up 700% ( talk to family) thats good huh?

dont hear shit about that stuff

[Bong30]

wecould nuke the fuck out of them that would stop the shit....

Mecca,

Madina,

damascus,

terahn during friday pryers.....


that would stop the shit and start the reformation.....same way we did the Japs and that stoped that war.

The ultimate solution to the ultimate problem.....


Hey BC. NO americans will die either......


we could nuke a micky ds for you BC......

[Bong30]

Consequences of Nuking Mecca
By: Vernon Richards, author of â??Islam Undressedâ??

Because a war of attrition heavily favors their ultimate goals, Islamist terrorists have so far not been deterred by large numbers of their young men being killed. Life is cheap to them, even their own, and so they remain unmoved by their losses and still lust for power through murder. Their grass-roots support base, billions of Muslims world-wide, can still be counted on to largely support their efforts, even if only passively. If sufficiently humbled, then at some point the majority of Muslims might yet choose to abandon violence and stop their sons, or at least temporarily withdraw their jihadist forces to established realms of influence (just as the Turkish hordes did after being soundly defeated by the Polish cavalry). But any decision to withdraw will not come by either negotiation or accommodation, but only through abject humiliation and defeat. What form of defeat will suffice to convince Islam to put the Jihad genie back in the bottle is a subject of widespread debate. Pacifists blithely claim more therapy, understanding, and multiculturalism is the way, and will likely continue to spout such nonsense right up until the Halal knife slices their throat. They congratulate themselves for being so open-minded, oblivious that their brains have fallen out. Happily self-blinded by excessive relativism, they can no longer distinguish right from wrong, good from evil, or dark from light.
Those more personally touched by Islamic methods, and with the ability to realize you cannot create sweets from bile, often prefer methods of â??total warâ??. Our enemies remain free to plan and perpetrate never-ending acts of total war designed to destroy the very fabric of our society. Failure to respond with even greater destructiveness will only serve to prolong this struggle. In any contest, the first rule of victory is to fight on your own terms and not your opponents. In any violent struggle, victory goes to the most ferocious and skilled. As Patton said, let the other poor bastard die for his country, our objective is to fight and win. We must fight with more energy, more cunning, more intelligence, and more ferocity than the cunning animals seeking our demise. It is simply suicidal to refuse to fight a people and culture who are motivated, mobilized, and pledged to destroy you. The true terrorists, the men and nations brainwashing, supplying, and ordering terrorist attacks, would prefer they remain unmolested. They are quite happy to let us use our police, military, and intelligence to play cat and mouse with their endless supply of terrorist foot-soldiers in this contest stacked against us. In this war, victory will go to the party most effective in convincing the opposing party that surrender is preferable to a continuation of hostilities, and so victory will remain out of reach to us as long as the enablers and handlers remain safe. Muslim survivalists will only force the end to the terrorist activities springing up from amongst them when made to pay a terrible price. One â??terrible priceâ?? currently under debate is an nuclear attack on Mecca should any 9/11 scale attack (or larger) occur on US soil. I am in favor of such planning in the event of a catastrophic strike against America, because I believe the burden of loss needs to be shifted decidedly to fundamental Muslims themselves (and what they value most) if there is to be any hope of ending all this madness. To yield to Islamists demands and take the option off the table would be strategically stupid. Unfortunately, the only thing an insanity respects is greater insanity.

But as has been pointed out by Robert Spencer, Nuking Mecca could also be seen by Islamists as a weak action and could serve to unify Muslims and increase Jihad. But this is only true if not done properly and the city is left salvageable within a few years. Once devoted Muslims carry out their next major strike on America, the Mecca plan should be carried out without hesitation or warning. No Hiroshima class atomic wimp-weapon will do, only the 1,000 times more powerful hydrogen fusion device will work for this important job. To be done correctly, a grid of 9 of our most powerful Hydrogen bombs (3x3, every 12 miles, the black stone at the center) are set off at the surface to be as dirty as possible, rendering the entire region uninhabitable for the next few decades. The strike is then repeated every 5 years or so if any kind of clean-up is attempted. Medina needs one too, to prevent Arabs from declaring the transference of the holy site to the secondary location, but Mecca needs to be thoroughly â??glassifiedâ??.
Muslims will thereby learn by force-feeding that their hateful God (Allah) cannot protect them and is a figment of their collective imagination, and millions will leave the failed cult. Nothing harms an Arab more than humiliation and defeat. They sincerely believe that their most-powerful Allah has promised to protect and preserve Mecca, and so their false faith in the Pagan deity will crumble with the meteorite in the intense heat and pressure of a fusion fireball. Can a billion Moslems worldwide face radioactive glass 5 times a day and still take it seriously, I donâ??t think so, or at least not over the long term. Cut off the head and the snake will still squirm for a while, but it will soon stop. In addition, by preventing Muslims from -ever- performing one of the pillars (requirements) of Islam, we block their way to paradise, but thereby actually save them from real hell (Islam is hell-on-earth is this life, and brings only sorrow and torment in the next). When the time comes, by all means, Nuke Mecca, â?¦but do it right. By this act, and this act alone, many intelligent Arabs, Persians, Egyptians, and Asians will stop their foolish ideas of superiority, and so curb their sanctimonious rationales to commit hateful acts of murder, rape, slavery, and violence. Domestic Muslims will need to be controlled for a while, with heavy doses of education and trauma therapy applied. If they can commit to opposing Muhammad and his methods, then in a generation or two Islamic nonsense will not be worshiped by their children. If they can make no such binding commitment, then deportation is in order. As Hiroshima saved more lives than it took 60 years ago, so will thoroughly nuking Islamic sites save more lives than will be taken otherwise, including possibly yours, mine, and your children and my children.

While we all hope such measures are unnecessary, to fail to plan for that eventuality is to plan to fail. If we were to Nuke major cities in Iran and Syria, the root of Islam in Mecca would remain and worldwide faith in Muhammad and his vile methods would be strengthened instead of weakened. Such a weak act would embolden the movement and the gains in destroying America would be perceived as well worth the cost. In the mean time, while we all await for the rumored catastrophe, a concerted effort to supply Persians with the means and weapons to overthrow the Mullahs is urgently needed in Iran. Our Persian allies in this effort need to understand that they will likely die with the Mullahs in the inevitable nuclear storm which will follow should they fail. The Kurds of northern Syria are also salvageable, but there is hardly anything else worth preserving in Syria. As I have been informed by Jordanian and Lebanon Arabs, Syrians are not to be trusted, and for reason.



Lets end this shit, or they could reform there dumb religon

[BlueCat]

I have toyed with you long enough...in all future posts you will be known as Evil Kelso....hahahahaha

Evil Kelso reads "The Wealth of Nations" HAHAHAHA I should make a comic book of that!

[BlueCat]

Cut and paste Bong cut and paste but are you actually reading it?

No Evil Kelso can't read because the American education system is in shambles...so he tries to find a copy of Wealth of Nations with pictures And the funny thing is there IS one...put out by the Neocons

HAHAHAHA this is gonna make a great comic...oh man too much weed today :stoned: hahahaha but I needed the laugh. thanks Evil Kelso LMAO

[Psycho4Bud]

Really I guess that's suppose to be nice and all Psycho..but honestly you have seen his posts..his hatred, his racism, his name calling and you consider yourself in good company what does that say about you?

There are a few from your side of the fence also that don't have daisys poppin' from their posts. Your point is?

Trust me we do not need the likes of either of you if this is the way you think the world should be. You can't understand my way of thinking AND my being a military brat because YOU simply don't understand The REAL military families that have been in this shit forever. The ones that have had it with kids dying and losing their legs so the Bush twins can spend a few more warm nights in Rio and some other rich bastard can line his wallet.

LMAO! Is that YOUR version of freedom? YOUR opinion and thats it?

The guys want to help those people in Iraq but the Sunni and Shia have been fighting for hundreds of years. You are not going to go in and convince one fraction that they are not descendents of Abraham or the other that they are not descendents of Muhammad.

There are many of the middle eastern countries where the two live in peace. They may not care for each other but they do co-exist.

You do not understand because you have not been surrounded by religion your entire life, you haven't struggled against a dictator. You make no effort to understand their culture. That is evident by the things you post and your support of Bong.

I find that a bit insultive. Since "91" I decided to study the regions history and found the religious aspect VERY interesting. How much of the Quran have you read. I've read versions from various sites in order to get a better perspective on THIER views. Granted, the U.S. hasn't been angels over there but the main point of resentment is from a pre-U.S. era.

You expect our soldiers to go in there and put 800 years of struggle to rest and you think it can be forced on these people with guns. How deluded is that? These radical Islamics believe they are fighting a religious war for their souls and you guys reenforce the bullshit.

Our mission isn't to put "800 years of stuggle to rest" but to help them co-exist like in the rest of the region. You also have to remember that neither was/is very fond of Kurds but yet you don't hear of any Kurdish insurgency.

You just don't get it building a McDonalds and a Wal-Mart simply won't fix this one. Money won't fix it and neither will oil. The only thing that will stop the violence is to GET OUT.

$3,500 per each Iraqi registered. We'll see.....do I get to watch you eat crow or should I just take your word for it? LOL.......post a pic for us.

Not everyone in the military are blood thirty killers like you guys get off on thinking there are many many past and present heroes... the bad guys are the arm chair warriors that really DON'T know SHIT but want so called "freedom" at any cost..You two would drop bombs from your lazyboys if they'd let you!

WE are the bad guys. Hell ya, it's worse to state an opinion than to wear a suicide vest into a market. COME ON NOW!

We don't have proper schools in this country!! Our education is some of the WORST in the world.

Are you serious? Whats our rank.........got a link from a reputable site?

We don't have proper medical care for half this country. I know family after family that can't buy enough food to make it though the week.

I know college students that are eating out of dumpsters behind cafes and can't turn their heat on AND pay their tuition. We won't even go into the corporate raping of students and school books.

Woudn't it be nice if we had the oil reserves in proportion to that of Iraq. Image it, it would be like these people received a check for $90,000 each year form the government. THAT would take care of your complaints and many other peoples. See my point at all about the payout in Iraq for $3,500?

We can't even secure our own borders and you think we can do it in Iraq? Why should we? Why do you support social efforts in a country in which you hate the people and their religion? You guys are real patriots.
I want our soldiers to come home and start protectingTHEIR country we need them right here at home. You guys keep on supporting Iraq. I will support Americans. In case you have not noticed the majority in this country wants this war to stop NOW.

I don't hate the people or their religion. If they can tolorate others I can tolorate them. There are many, many fine Muslims out there and I've NEVER stated any different. The KKK follows the Baptist religion pretty much but does that mean that all Baptists are racist? HELL NO!

Back in the old days my friend we would have been having a good ol' war about some of these accusations but I don't feel right doing that shit these days for obvious reasons.

Bong30 rips up on some.......and I see it's thrown back in his face from different directions. EVERYONE in here has a right to an opinion no matter what it is (to a point).

Have a good one!:jointsmile:

[Bong30]

BC, I use to be in this club called. DECA distributive Education Clubs Of America.

I had this teacher that used to freak out on him...He would print parts of his works and different works, of similar nature, and then we used to talk about how socialism would not work.

So i have read many parts of it, been tested on it, and dicussed it in a classroom setting

I would compete in the DECA clubs in General Marketing and do very well.

I got As in Micro and Macro Econ in college too......

Thanks For asking...I do not remeber reading the wealth of nations cover to cover though No.

Thanks again....