I am against handouts, welfare and the like also, but I am also against closing the boarders up tight. That is not what makes it a conservitive issue, or a liberal one. History has shown US that standing armys, and military boarders are not a good thing to have. History has also shown US that open boarders is a good thing to have. Can you show me where one dictator, commi, socialist or any other power structure has ever used open boarders to control the people? I don't get you man, you seem to hate any kind of control over the people, and then turn around and want to control the people.

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